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lesleyhannah
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May - these are quite distant relatives of mine. I'm doing this research for my elderly aunt who didn't know much about her family. She was a Henson. And I'm finding so much intermarriage in her family in Nottingham - the same surnames keep cropping up in different branches. So It's possible either your Henson or your Garner are related to mine.
My Hensons seem to have come from Keyworth or Ratcliffe, the Garners from Wysall. Elizabeth Garner's parents were Joseph Garner born 1785 and Sarah Painter 1789. Elizabeth's children were Elizabeth, Sarah, Joseph, William and John. If any of these crop up in your tree I'd love to hear.
I notice you're also researching the Toons - I have a Mary Toon born 1825 who married John Cutts - could this be another coincidence?
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lesleyhannah
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Don't know - I find they move more or less all over the Notts/Derby/Leics/Warwickshire area. My Mary Toon I think came from Ratcliffe but certainly lived and had all her children in the All Saints area of Leicester. Oddly, she was married in coventry. Joseph, her father, was a carpenter. If you come across them in your searches I'd be grateful to know.
Hope you're lucky with your Hensons.
Lesley
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Mobo
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My HENRY HENSON, (Schoolmaster) b.c. 1800, married SARAH SKILLINGTON.
Their daughter
HANNAH HENSON, was born August 13, 1826 in Hickling, Notts. She married THOMAS EDGSON April 6, 1851 in Harby, Notts, son of WILLIAM EDGSON and ELIZABETH CHAMBERS. He was born 1831 in Long Clawson, Leics.
They had a family and lived in Long Clawson, Leicester.
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs. Website: http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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Trisha
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Hi,
the parents of Thomas HENSON-b.1871 in Peterborough who was married to a Martha PAWLEY who has been previously mentioned were;-
William HENSON and Anne Eliza SLATER.They married at Crowland Abbey on the 4th Sept 1853.
William HENSON was born on 11 May 1831 at either Little Beltham,Leics or Littleworth,Rutland.He later went onto become the landlord of 'The China Cup' in Eastgate,Peterborough.
Anne Eliza SLATER was born in Wisbech on the 8th Sept,possibly in 1832.
Their other children besides Thomas were;-
Elizabeth Rebecca-b.c 1856 in Crowland.She married 1/Thomas NUTT 2/Joseph BURTON
Susannah-b.c.1857.She married a John Thomas FOVARGUE.
George-b.c.1860
Interestingly ,Thomas HENSON married twice to 2 sisters.His 1st wife Martha died in 1913.They had 3 children,Elizabeth Rebecca(Lalla),Anne Maud and John William(Billy).
He then married Martha's sister Emma.The only child of theirs that I know of was called Thomas,although confusingly he was always known as Peter.
Hope all this helps someone,
Trisha 
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Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark
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stuart_rippon
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I'm searching for Thomas HENSON as well and the last post looks very coincidental
I'm looking for my GGGGrandfather Thomas HENSON Father of my GGGrandmother Rebecca born:abt 1821 - her birth place is Gidding huntindonshire in the 1851 census (her age in 1851 was 30) but the only likely candidate I can find in the IGI is Rebecca born in Glatton christened:1823 father Thomas mother Catherine ( I can find two other children Eleanor (born in Glatton ch:1817) and Alice (born in Great Gidding ch:1828). Glatton and the Gidding's are really close together so I guess this may be a good match.
Rebecca lives in Cowbit lincolnshire in 1851 and Married Michael GILDROY ( his surname is spelled in many different ways) in Cowbit in 1844. (they were very difficult to find in the 1851 due to transcription errors and typically were on the last page so I had to scan the whole of crowland and cowbit before I found them.) Michael died in 1849 and rebecca is down as a widow in the 1851 census. I was lucky in unlocking this element via a new lincolnshire site with lincolnshire marriage records including maiden names and Fathers names.
Cowbit is the next village to Crowland and her Daughter Mary puts Crowland as her place of birth in later years although she is clearly in Cowbit in 1851 aged 2.
Interestingly Rebecca had a visitor in the house in 1851 a Thomas Henson who was also 30 year old he states his birthplace as Glapthorn Hunts.
The Marriage of William in Crowland might be a coincidence but I wonder if this is the same family - any chance we have a link?
I also note that the names Thomas and Rebecca are coincidentally in your tree
can you see any linkages
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bedfordshire boy
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Hi Stuart
Welcome to Rootschat
Only about 15% of Hunts parish registers appear on the IGI, so "your" Rebecca could be among the 85% that the LDS weren't allowed to film. Whilst Glatton has been extracted, Gt Gidding hasn't.
Having said that, you may have the right one as the 1841 census shows
HO107/450 - 14 Folio 13B
Great Gidding
Thomas Henson 60 Ag lab born in county
Catharine Henson 55 Born in Ireland
Thomas 20 ag lab; John 20 ag lab; Rebekah 15 all born in county
The Thomas age 20 (ages over 15 in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below) may well be the visitor in 1851 and provides a firmer link to Thomas and Catherine. I assume the Lincs marriage site to which you refer confirms her father's name as Thomas.
I couldn't see any other Hensons in the Giddings, and none in Glatton
There's no marriage on the Hunts Marriage Index for Thomas and Catharine.
There's a member submission on the IGI (always to be taken with large pinches of salt) of Elizabeth daughter of Thomas and Catherine in 1812 at Gt Weldon Northants - the Gt Gidding Thomas and Catherine are old enough to have been married by 1812. Of course it might be a complete red herring, but Northants is as badly covered on the IGI as Hunts. It might be interesting to see what a marriage look up request on the Northants board throws up.
Regards
David
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stuart_rippon
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Great thanks for the input - sounds like it could be them I've found a Thomas Hendson ( note the spelling) in Great gidding in the 1851 census - must be the same one he was born 1780 ish ( usual 2 year plus and minus I guess) with his daughter Ann and grandchildren maryann and rebecca!!!.
The 1851 gives me Thos b:1780 Glatton with daughter Ann b:1824 and grandchildren Maryann b:1845 and rebecca b:1848 all born Great Gidding
Now there is some very interesting stufff here:-
The IGI has a significant number of Hensons in the giddings and Glatton
In 1851 there is just Thomas above - where did they go? and why?
Then the big question for me is I have from the IGI three children to Thomas and Catharine as per my last post but one to Thomas and Ann. I have their marriage as (Thomas Henson spouse Ann wells 20 sept 1843 great gidding) from the IGI but confirmed on the BMD - is this a second marriage - ties up with your Thomas but cannot find Catharine's death That would make Thomas old when he married Ann but again ties up with the census data I have found
This bit of my tree is new to me so I have gone for my "now becoming standard scatter gun approach". This is really interesting.... I have extracted all the 1851 census data for the Henson's in Huntingdon and each surrounding county. I'll post the data if anyone needs it let me know. I plan to do a map of where they live and have only found one family in the Giddings area - none of the villages have anyone except for the the Hendson's which I covered above. It looks to me as though the family left this part of Huntingdon on mass - I wonder why?.
Any idea's how I found out if this Thomas was previously married to Catharine then to Ann? if this is right I have them otherwise I'm still looking
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bedfordshire boy
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Hi Stuart
The BVRI shows the 1843 marriage. Thomas's father was Thomas and, given that there were two children and Thomas snr would have been in his mid 60's, I think it more likely that it was Thomas jnr who married and in 1851 he was merely visiting his sister where his marital condition was left blank. His wife Ann and their children MaryAnn and Rebecca were living with her father in law.
BVRI has
30 Apr 1844 MaryAnn chr at Gt Gidding parents Thomas and Ann
No Rebecca 1848 though
It also has
James chr Gt Gidding 31 May 1844 son of Rebecca Henson
Regards
David
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stuart_rippon
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Absolutely Brilliant - that ties it all in very well I have Rebbecca living in Cowbit in 1851 with son James born 1844 she was also married in 1844 and yes I have confirmation that her father was Thomas from the marriage. I suspect the James ch:1844 son of Rebbecca Henson is my James does the use of her maiden name mean he was illegitimate? If your thoughts on Thomas and Catharine's son Thomas are correct that would give me the following:-
Thomas = Catherine
1780 1780 - 1785
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Thomas = Ann Wells John Rebbecca = Michael
abt 1821 1824 ? 1821 1820
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Mary Ann 1844 James 1844
Rebbecca 1848 Catherine 1846
Mary 1848
I also have Eleanor CH 1817 and Alice Ch 1828 as daughters of Thomas and Catharine from the IGI
I have a Rebbecca registered in 1847 in Oundle XV 321 June qtr which is likely to be Thomas and Ann's daughter Birth certificate would confirm.
I have now found John and Rebekah Cook married in Great Giddings on 4 May1777 This sounds a very likely candidate for Thomas's parents I guess - they appear to have two other children born in Gatton Eleanor 27 Feb 1778 and Rebbecca 27 Apr 1783
I'll keep looking
Interestingly when I discussed the Hensons with my father he suddenly remembers Aunt Maud and uncle Jack Henson were farmers in Ramsey or wayboys and that my Uncle Jack Rippon went to live with them as there was no room for him at home. Dad remembers visiting and collecting bread, meat and eggs regularly during the war. My Uncle jack was actually Christened John Herbert. So it may be worth trying to trace John and Thomas a little further to find this link.
I've not used the BVRI before for research but it looks a good tool so I've just sent for a full set. While I wait can you see Rebbecca in 1847?
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Hi Stuart
Yes, the absence of a father's name on an IGI christening entry usually signifies illegitimacy. Rebecca 1847/8 is not on the BVRI.
I think your descendancy chart looks right, and is how I would interpret what we've come up with so far.
I find the BVRI very useful, although others disagree! It depends on the county. Hunts which is badly covered on the IGI has a number of additional parishes included in the BVRI which I find invaluable. I also use the Hunts Marriage Index a lot as it covers most Hunts parishes - this is available from the Hunts FHS on fiche, priced very reasonably. Not having a fiche viewer I have to resort to a 20x magnifying glass and put up with the greasy nose prints on the fiches!
Regards
David
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stuart_rippon
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Well the BVRI was worth the investment although I wish I had found out that you can get it from the UK rather than having to buy from the US.
I have found Thomas's birth father John and mother Elizabeth Born Glatton 1780 - has to be my man but then I go off the rails again. I can't find any more children to John and Elizabeth or there marriage in the BVRI or the IGI. There is another John in Glatton married to Rebecca but they have children that Span Thomas' birth so this sounds like a separate couple.
I can't find Thomas' Marriage either have no idea where than has gone I wonder as his wife was Irish if they were married out of the country.
Any ideas welcome
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