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1881 Census lookup, please
« on: Saturday 12 August 06 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi..would appreciate a lookup for g'father, Owen Thomas, born April 1871, Penygroes,Caernarvonshire,  to parents George Thomas and Mary Jones.

Thought I woud find a lead in the marriage certificate received from GRO, but a line was drawn through father's name.  My information comes from naturilization papers and death certificate.  Many thanks!

The 1881 census doesn't seem to offer clues. Perhaps following a suggestion of searchng in 1871 for parents might be more fruitful, even if that does preceed Owen's birth.  What I have found as a birth year could be wrong too....often is!
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Scotland.....Cook, McGinlay

England....Cook, Agger
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Re: 1881 Census lookup, please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 August 06 20:44 UTC (UK) »


Census was taken 2 april 1871. IF his info is accurate, would it not be best to start with 1871?
MODIFY the request if you agree.

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Re: 1881 Census lookup, please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 August 06 08:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Grandma5

Did you know that the 1881 census is available online here:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

I had a look, but couldn;t find him - although I confess, I am not sure what surname we are looking for!  Did he go by Owen OWENS?

The fact that his father's name was crossed out strongly suggests that his parents were not married at the time of his birth, which was not unusual.  Any idea whether they married later?

I checked 1871 too, but nothing quite fits.  Of course, he could have been born after the enumerator called!

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1881 Census lookup, please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 August 06 21:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi...and thanks.  I did try the IGI, Free BMD.   Owen died young,  death certifcate information was filled by my  g'mother, so assume names of George Thomas and Mary Jones were accurate.   

Annie Williams (Pwllhei) and Owen Thomas were married 1898. Found them in 1901 census living in Llanllyfni.  I can trace Annie's family, but not Owen's, whose naturilization papers indicate he was born in Penygoes.  Been searching for his birth family/parents without success......thought the marriage certificate would offer clues, but that too was a dead end.

Guess I don't know where to go from here...perhaps the 1871 census, preceeded Owen's birth, but might offer a clue. Appreciate your help.  Millie
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Re: 1881 Census lookup, please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 August 06 21:50 UTC (UK) »

Good advice, Pauline, I did modify.  Thanks! Millie
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Re: 1881 Census lookup, please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 August 06 06:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Millie - you had me quite puzzled - Owen seemed to have a different surname from both his mother (JONES) and his father (OWENS)?  Have you changed George's name to THOMAS - that would accord better!

I can't even suggest looking at the full BMDs without knowing what his surname was - is it THOMAS, or is that his middle name?


Let us know what name we are searching for & we can try again.   Smiley

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink

p.s. had a quick look at 1871 - there are some Owen JONES of the right age - not sure of the geography though - will wait for you to get back top us!



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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: 1881 Census lookup, please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 August 06 19:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi,  Must be getting a bit scattered with all this research!  Thanks for seeing what I didn't....Parents are George Thomas and Mary Jones. 

(Been working with Owens, Williams and Thomas family lines, so guess I scrambled them!)

Regards,
Millie
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England....Cook, Agger
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