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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« on: Monday 01 November 04 20:18 UTC (UK) »


The fourth episode of the BBC's celebrity Family History series
- 9pm Tuesday 2nd November 2004 on BBC2 in the UK (& Europe for Digital Free to Air viewers)


WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
"Too boring to bother with
When asked to research his family's history Jeremy Clarkson's response was an abrupt one: 'Too boring to bother with,' he said. Decide whether he's now been proved wrong, on Tuesday 2nd November.
" http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/

Jeremy Clarkson is best know for his straight-talking and sometimes scathing comments and reviews on cars. If your husband (or wife) is not into family history, but into cars - then this can be your chance to stick them infront of the TV for an hour - by shouting "That Jeremy Clarkson chap is on BBC2" (It might help too if you play some top gear music too).  Wink

This series is well worth watching. Also if you've not used your interactive button before (the red one), then give your thumb a bit of a treat (Sky Digital and Freeview viewers & some Cable areas) - the interactive bit gives you tips on conducting your own research.

Followed at 10pm  with "Family Ties" on BBC4 (the TV channel available for free on Freeview, or on Sky Digital/Cable)
"A Journey Around My Grandmother: The story of four generations of women told by the youngest, Javotte, who along with her mother attempts to uncover her grandmother's story."
BBC4 Website

So will you be keeping us company and joining us again on the RootsChat sofa and watching Who Do You Think You Are?



See comments on the previous programmes here:

Episode 3:
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16836.0

Episode 2:
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15727.0

http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15673.0
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14764.0
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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 November 04 13:08 UTC (UK) »

Yup, I'll be watching but possibly through gritted teeth. Is it me or is Mr Clarkson one of the least sympathetic characters on TV?
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 November 04 18:21 UTC (UK) »

I'll be watching it as well. Trying to tempt hubby with Jeremy Clarkson didn't work though Roll Eyes  Grin Grin
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 November 04 18:31 UTC (UK) »

Wouldnt miss it for the world..
I've watched all 3 so far, and am looking forward to tonights episode.  I quite like Jeremy Clarkson.. he has my sense of humour...  Grin and makes me chuckle..
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 03:48 UTC (UK) »

Tonight's episode with Jeremy Clarkson was,  for me,  the best so far.

They made it clear at the beginning that a professional researcher had done the family tree,  and they showed Jeremy having a hard time finding out what happened to the family millions.

I was surprised to see though that he appears to have my elusive Isaac Hole in his tree,  we caught a very quick glimpse of the name when he opened up the family tree at the beginning.  I wondered where Isaac had been hiding.  Roll Eyes

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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 07:05 UTC (UK) »

Kazza loved it - hated it. My wife had the right idea, she watched tennis while this non-discovery programme was on. BBC, no more like this please. Sad
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 08:16 UTC (UK) »

To quote my son this program was " a bit of a mix".

There were aspects of it I hated ..... his dismissal of many of his ancestors as "chopping barley" or the colliery carpenter by saying something like "didn't have the brains to even go down the mines" ...... what did he think a colliery carpenter did.

It did come around at some points .... his investigation of the court case and a few comments which alluded to a slight interest in the detective side of things

But overall I have to say that for me this was the Worst of the series so far.
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 08:38 UTC (UK) »

I agree - I still think it makes out that the research is easy !   You just go on-line and there are all these wills just sitting there !

Jeremy Clarkson - there's no middle ground is there - you either love him or hate him........ he's very much the stereo-typical Yorkshire- man .......even id he doesn't think so !
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 09:50 UTC (UK) »

I agree with Kazza - I enjoyed it.  I have to admit I am a Jeremy Clarkson fan.  Yes he's arrogant, but that's what makes him funny!  The programme made me think about my own family tree and new angles to take on it.  After eight years of chasing around I needed a new idea!  I'm now going to start looking for the money!!
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 10:00 UTC (UK) »

I didn't think it was as good as episode 3, but Jeremy is a funny man and I do like his style - I especially like his views on political correct thinking. Wouldn't it have been funny if one of his ancestors had been a Victorian eco-warrior!

A little more nitty-gritty would have been splendid - too much Kilner stuff; got a little bored with glass blowing and vast amounts of wealth. I would like to have seen him do some research into his Ag. Lab. ancestors - something more human. Also, he didn't cry...why?

I think the BBC should run a second series after this. Maybe they should get some input from regular family historians, like us, before they start filming. Perhaps the BBC should get rid of Eastenders, sport, chat shows and childrens' programs, and show two, three or even four hour episodes on BBC1 next time - heck, let's have a family history day at least once a week, and really indulge ourselves. How about concentrating on one ordinary individual and following him as he researches his tree from the beginning? Maybe the BBC can encourage people to begin researching by offering prizes (free help from a professional, 24-hrs in a records office, of your choice, with no restrictions)?

Family Ties at 10:00. I'm glad I'm not French! What a hastle it would be to find a simple birth certificate.

Kris.




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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 10:27 UTC (UK) »

Its TV............
Light and entertaining?
All so far have included the element of the chase.

I just wonder how many man hours the programmes have taken to produce, particularly how many researchers were used? As we know it can take many months just to find a certificate or will.

Our expertise has us saying -  well Jeremy! get along to the probate and you will see where your mothers families money went, yours is still down the pit.

If only the last bit actually was expanded with some real tips and advice
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 10:41 UTC (UK) »

I personally didn't find last nights episode as interesting as the others, but having said that I still enjoyed it and it was a good compromise with my husband! as he too could watch someone he could tollerate!
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 10:50 UTC (UK) »

Now I know why some of my family yawn while I'm rattling off the lastest info on someone who dropped off the twig over 100 years ago  Grin - my least favorite of the programs so far.

I agree with Kris, a little too much on the Kilners, but the programe did show that even if you do have a professional researcher to do the 'bare bones' at least you can still 'put the flesh on' yourself..
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 11:32 UTC (UK) »

As i have quite a few Glass Blowers in my tree last nights episode was particularly fasinating to me.  It was'nt pretentious in anyway, we were told right at the begining of the programme that a profesional had wrote up his Tree.  I would liked to have known just how his GGGGrandfather had squandered the fortune though. 

Kazza, I spotted the HOLE too and wondered about him!   lol

Although i'll never be able to look at my Coffee Container again without thinking about Mr Clarkson!  Wink

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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE (Episode 4)
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 12:38 UTC (UK) »

Hmmm, not as good as episode 3 but I love Clarkson - I think he is hilarious.  I know I'm a minority!

There was a lovely little touch which I would like to do but I guess you need the wealth in the family.  At the end of the programme they flicked through generations of photos of the generations.

I know it isn't an in depth study, but I like the focus on resource type.

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