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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 September 06 13:07 BST (UK) »

Dear Jane

The sea breezes have done their work and blown away the cobwebs over the identity of Esther Friday Tilt.  I think you have shown clearly that she is actually Esther Rose Friday Tilt, mother of little Harry Friday who died aged 1, and twice widowed. 

Thank you so much for all that work on the other Esther Friday Moore, showing conclusively that the Tilt widow couldn't have been her. 

So it looks as though my relative's widow ended her days in the Dorking Union workhouse.  In his will, Thomas Tilt the baker leaves everything (bar Esther's £5) to his only child Annie Turner, on condition she sells up the business.  The estate amounted to £35-7s-8d in 1882.  Between when he wrote the will in 1875 and when he died, Annie and her husband had moved to Winchester.  We happened to be there last week, and I found their house, an attractive brick urban cottage, the end of a group of three, in a narrow lane off Winchester High Street, now pedestrianised.  Nowadays it is a hair dresser's. 

It really doesn't seem right that while Annie and her six children were comfortably housed, her step-mother had to go into the workhouse, does it?  Poor Esther.  She didn't have much of a life.

Thank you so much for untangling these strands.

Beetle.
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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 03 September 06 15:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Beetle,
Glad that untangled things for you.  Yes. it does seem unfair that Esther ended her days in the workhouse  Sad

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 03 September 06 15:51 BST (UK) »

Just to add from my own research, my 4xgreat grandmother died in the Marylebone workhouse, but having checked their records which have been archived, she actually admitted herself to the infirmary and died in there. At the time she died, the rest of the family were in a fairly comfortable position.

So the end of Esther's days may not have been so bad. Depends what she died of though.

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 03 September 06 16:23 BST (UK) »

I will look for Dorking Union archives.  Esther Tilt had been in the workhouse for at least 17 years, since the 1891 census, though.  Her husband Thomas died in 1882, and she herself in 1908, age 66.

I can't help feeling the fact she was 8 years younger than Thomas's daughter and heir Annie cannot have helped ...

My husband is researching Palmer in Marylebone, and will keep an eye open for Sherry.

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 03 September 06 16:53 BST (UK) »

Thanks for your husband's Sherry look-up offer  Smiley

I started looking for them as a millenium project in 2000 and I think I've got them all now.

They arrived from Ireland in the 1820's and stayed until my father left in 1980 when he sold the family funeral directing business which was started there between 1851 and 1861.

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 November 06 15:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi Beetle & Jane

have juat been browsing through came across this posting
my intrest is in the Friday Esther has always posed a problem along with Henry Friday am in contact with a relation of Esther dau of Wiliiam & Jane Mills
will see if she knows of any tie up to the tilt line
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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #21 on: Friday 24 November 06 18:01 GMT (UK) »

Thank you, Lozz.

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #22 on: Friday 31 August 07 13:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Beetle & Jane

Sorry been of line for a long time
this is the information that i was given in regards to Esther Friday b 1837 parents Henry Friday & Jane Lowick
that is according to her relation that i have been in contact with is what is on her birth certificate this has add more to my headache with my Fridays
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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 19 December 07 23:45 GMT (UK) »

Dear Jane

The sea breezes have done their work and blown away the cobwebs over the identity of Esther Friday Tilt.  I think you have shown clearly that she is actually Esther Rose Friday Tilt, mother of little Harry Friday who died aged 1, and twice widowed. 

Thank you so much for all that work on the other Esther Friday Moore, showing conclusively that the Tilt widow couldn't have been her. 

So it looks as though my relative's widow ended her days in the Dorking Union workhouse.  In his will, Thomas Tilt the baker leaves everything (bar Esther's £5) to his only child Annie Turner, on condition she sells up the business.  The estate amounted to £35-7s-8d in 1882.  Between when he wrote the will in 1875 and when he died, Annie and her husband had moved to Winchester.  We happened to be there last week, and I found their house, an attractive brick urban cottage, the end of a group of three, in a narrow lane off Winchester High Street, now pedestrianised.  Nowadays it is a hair dresser's. 

It really doesn't seem right that while Annie and her six children were comfortably housed, her step-mother had to go into the workhouse, does it?  Poor Esther.  She didn't have much of a life.

Thank you so much for untangling these strands.

Beetle.

I was amazed to find & read this when I googled TILT/Dorking/Capel....I am a direct descendent of Annie Tilt, the step daughter that left her mother in law in the poor house!!!  Embarrassed  She was my great great grandmother.
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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 20 December 07 16:10 GMT (UK) »

Hi Cyndilla & welcome to Rootschat  Smiley
I know Beetle (aka Pam) is away in Oz for the holidays so if she misses your posting I'll give her a heads-up as I'm sure she'll be interested!

jane
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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 30 December 07 13:30 GMT (UK) »

Dear Jane

Thank you so much for letting Cyndilla know I was away for a long spell.  I have now picked up her message and replied.  This is an interesting new lead, and I hope we shall be able to exchange mutually profitable information.

Happy New Year! Smiley

Beetle (aka Pam).
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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #26 on: Monday 31 December 07 14:52 GMT (UK) »

Welcome back Pam.  Hope you had a good trip & perhaps 2008 & Cyndella's information will make it a good research year for you  Smiley

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 19:22 GMT (UK) »

Was browsing through the site and spotted the name TILT. It rang a bell and I checked back through some unpublished research done by a friend recently on Mid Sussex Settlement Certificates. There was a John TILT and wife Sarah appearing there on 14 November 1738 being examined as he had moved to Mayfield from Capel.

Apparently the original records, no doubt containing more information, are at the Record Office in Lewes.

This might provide some more information on the family if you have 'lost' one out of Surrey.

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 15:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi Peter,
That sounds like an interesting find for Pam.  Is your friend planning on publishing this settlement information?

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Re: TILTS and FRIDAYS in Capel and Dorking
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 18:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jane

It will all be appearing in the next Journal of the East Surrey Family History Society. That's because, although it is from the Sussex Settlements, the individuals are all from Surrey. The details will also be going into the comprehensive Surrey Strays list and the new Super Index for east Surrey that the Society is responsible for. If anyone wants a search done in either they should contact Beryl Cheeseman who does the researching in the Society's collections. Go to the web site at www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk and click on 'Strays' under 'Research Links' for details. There is also a growing collection of free to view stuff appearing on the web site that might be interesting.

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