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HI john, that was a fast reply  thank you for the welcome i am still trying to find my feet so to speak as i am pretty new to this family research stuff, i had not got that far yet so yes please any info you have would be great thank you. I have just sent my aunt the good news as we have both been looking for roberts parents so i am sure she will be thrilled, and any tips you want to give me on searches will be greatly appreciated , are you researching all the allen family or just certain members ? do yu have marriage certificate for robert and sarah the reason i ask is that i do if you do not have it i shall gladly send it to you, and if you are doing the whole allen line i have some war records on one and other stuff too not alot but it all helps .
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Carrie
The children of John Allen & Sarah Bracegirdle are as laid out on Wendy (SpinnersChase) posting above.
Children of Robert Allen & Sarah Ann Taylor are as follows :-
Robert - chr 23/08/1835 Stepney
Matthew John -chr 13/09/1837 Whitechapel
Ann - chr 09/02/1840 Stepney
Thomas - b 1843 Stepney
Mary - b 1845 Shoreditch
William - b 1847 Shoreditch, chr age 16 21/06/1863 Hemingford Abbots
Sarah Ann - b 1849 Hemingford Abbots, died 1858
George - b 1853 Hemingford Abbots
Alice - b 25/06/1855 Hemingford Abbots
Walter Charles - b 1858 Hemingford Abbots
Before I give more details, let me know which of these Allen's you descend from & I will give you that first, rather than list the lot now.
I have not investigated all these Allens, just those that were identifiable from census & BMD entries. When I went to Hunts record office I did write down every Allen I found baptised, married & buried from the Brampton PR (1790-1820) just in case.
Regards John
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hello john thomas born 1843 was my great great grandfather but i am doing all the allens. I have the wedding certificate for thomas b 1843 robert is the father but it is witnessed by sarah's father and a mary as the allen witness you would'nt happen to know who that mary is would you ? Any info on the allens of brampton would be wonderfull thank, am wondering if you could give me a little help re parishes etc , i read somewhere that bramton may have been called something else in the 1700's do you know what it was called please ? And do you know where i can find a list of churches that were in brampton in the 16/1700's thank you . Carrij
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Hi Carriej
Forgive me for butting in John. The best starting place to look for information on parishes is on www.genuki.com
There's no mention on there of an alternative name. Each parish had just the one established church at that time - St Mary Magdelene in the case of Brampton (although a larger town could have a number of parishes - but there was just the one in Brampton).
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David
(the same one as last night on the other message board)
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Hi David thank you so much for your help . carrij
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Carrie, Sorry I do not have any info on your Thomas Allen. I am assuming witness 'Sarah's father' indicates Thomas's wife was named Sarah. The witness 'Mary' if named Allen could be Thomas's sister ?
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Ok I am widening the net a bit ....
We've established that Robert Allen is son of John Allen & Susannah Bracegirdel. I am pretty sure John is son of Matthew Allen of Alconbury, who married Bridget Woodley of Buckden, on Dec 12 1780.
... and I'm sure that these had another son William chr 25 June 1798.
I'm now looking for a marriage of William to a Maria ?
They had George in 1820, James 1822 & William 1825
Can someone please find the marriage of William & Maria
Thanks John
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Hi John
There's a William and Mary Redhead in 1818 in Elton, but that's a bit of a hike from Alconbury.
Where was George baptised? Do you have them in censuses?
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Hello David
George (5/MAY/1820) & other children of William & Maria Allen, Bricklayer were baptised in Brampton. George married his cousin Eunice Allen in June 1853, (Eunice born 1824 daughter of John & Susannah Bracegurdel).
On 1851 George is nephew in household of James Lucas & wife Bridget b 1792
- who most likely is sister to William & John.
Cheers John
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Hello Tony, Thanks for the information; however I have not yet found a link from my Allens of Brampton to any at Conington. I see on the map Conington is a few miles up the A1 from Brampton so perhaps not linked at all - who knows. Perhaps if you noted their names & dates & let me know I'll have a look in Hunts Record office when I go in December (if not sooner)
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