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johnP-bedford
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Hi, I'm looking for any info on christening & parents & siblings of Robert Allen, born around 1815 at Brampton, Hunts.
I have him on all census from 1841, he married Sarah Taylor in Middlesex in 1834 & moved back to Hemingford Abbotts for 1851.
Thanks in advance for looking
Regards John
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukPartridge - North Beds; Peterborough Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts Clement - Croydon Who's going to love you when your looks are gone... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Hi John
Connected at last, but still no telephone
Brampton is one of those parishes where the only place you can get at the parish register is Huntingdon records office. They've not been filmed by the LDS.
I believe they have been indexed at Huntingdon though - they did a look up for me a year ago at a very reasonable price, although you're rather closer to Huntingdon than I am
All the best
David
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Gillg
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Just had a very speedy response (next day) from Hunts RO to my email request for a marriage in Brampton. They have the transcribed and original registers there, and their charges are very reasonable.
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Gill
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukFAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY, CHURCH from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts; Burnley, Lancs; New Zealand, Australia & US. HURST, BOLTON, BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs. |
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johnP-bedford
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thanks for that - seems like I need to plan for a visit - I have other Hunts ancestors to look up as well - better check opening times
John
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johnP-bedford
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After visit to Hunts record office - yes Brampton BMD fully transcribed ...
Possible my Robert Allen chr 26 July 1813, son of John & Susannah Allen , Mason.
A number of other children christened to John & Susannah between 1807 & 1825.
Most likely marriage John Allen of Brampton to Susannah Brasgurdel of Huntingdon St John at Huntingdon on Feb 18 1806.
The 1851 census has a Susannah Allen, b 1782 Easton, Hunts, widow living in Brampton with children John 1821 & Emma 1815
Cannot find the family on 1841 - can anybody out there find them ?
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Barbara F
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Hi John
I see from the 1851 census that John b 1821 was a bricklayer. In 1841 there is this rather odd household in Brampton
John Allen 20 Bricklayer
Eunice 15
Bridget Peters 10 (very difficult to read the age)
All born in county.
Not having any luck with Susanna or Emma so far.
Barbara
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johnP-bedford
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Thanks Barbara, That made me do some more research.
This most likely is son John, as I have a baptism of a Unice on 26 July 1824 also a child of John & Susannah Allen, Bricklayer.
The Bridget Peters b 1831 I have found on 1851 being niece of James Lucas & Bridget (ne Allen) age 59, plus nephew George Allen age 30. On 1841 James & Bridget Lucas are in Brampton together with George Allen & James Peters & Amos Peters.
On 1851 this Amos Peters is with Susannah Allen being her nephew.
The Bridget Allen (wife of James Lucas) has a christening on 22 July 1792 at Brampton, daughter of Matthew & Bridget Allen, labourer
Regards John
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I have also a John Allen chr Nov 4 1781 to parents Matthew & Bridget Allen, labourer. With the Bridget / Amos Peters niece / nephew appearing in common households suggests John Allen (who married Susannah) & Bridget Allen (who married James Lucas) may well be brother & sister.
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Hi, John
I don't suppose you have among your Allens a Thomas Quincey Allen born c1819, married in 1840 to Elizabeth Fairey/Fairy/Farey. He died aged 21 in 1842 and was buried 19.04.1842 in Conington. Both marriage and death were registered under Huntingdon.
Just a thought.
Gill 
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johnP-bedford
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Hello Gillg, You suppose right - if he turns up I'll let you know
Regards John
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Gillg
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Thanks, John.
I'm also interested in your Susannah Brasgurdel, not just because of her wonderful surname, but because you have her as born in Easton, and it's not a surname I've come across in Easton researches for my Fairey family there.
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Gill
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukFAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY, CHURCH from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts; Burnley, Lancs; New Zealand, Australia & US. HURST, BOLTON, BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs. |
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Hi there,
As John discovered I am also descended from Robert ALLEN's parents, John and Susannah ALLEN via their youngest daughter, Eunice.
Other family members are also researching this ALLEN line and have made the following comments to your posts. [All information is sourced from Brampton Parish Registers unless otherwise stated].
"1. Robert Allen, son of John and Susannah (Brasgurdel/Bracegirdle), bapt 26 July, 1813 at Brampton.
Siblings, all bapt in Brampton were:
William, bapt 27 July, 1807, married Ann Heffer/Hepher in Needingworth, 1829;
Robert, bapt 25 Dec 1808 [prob. buried 20 Aug, 1811]
Matthew, bapt 13 Jan, 1811, married (i) ? (ii) Alice Smith, 8 Aug 1839, St.
Mary's, Haggerston, Middx;
Rhoda, bapt Herodias 24 July 1815, married George Ashbridge, 11 Oct 1837 at Alconbury;
Thomas, bapt 11 May 1817, married Mary Ann(e) Carter, 1846;
John, bapt 24 July 1820, married Charlotte Allen (sic), 12 Jan 1853;
Eunice, Bapt 26 July, 1824, married George Allen (the son of John's brother, William), 16 May, 1853.
2. 1841 Census: John ALLEN died on 8 Dec, 1840 so was not alive. His widow Susannah was with their son Matthew ALLEN , his wife and daughter, both Alice, and his brother Thomas, in Worship St. Shoreditch on the census [HO 107/709/9 folio 14 p20].
3. 1851 Census: John and Eunice ALLEN were brother and sister (both married others in 1853). Bridget Peters was their cousin, daughter of their aunt Eunice (nee Allen) and James Peters. Eunice died in 1836 and the children were with various other family members.
I think 'Emma' is an enumerator's transcription error for Eunice - this is the only place I have seen the name "Emma ALLEN" and I cannot find Eunice anywhere else on this census.
4. Susannah Brasgurdel/Brasgirdle/Bracegirdle was possibly the daughter of William Bracegirdle and Elizabeth Hainsworth, who were married at Easton in 1774."
We hope this will be helpful!
Cheers
Wendy
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Surnames:
Allen, Arton, Arthur, Askey, Astin, Attwell, Beavor, Bird, Bloom, Bonser, Brasgurdel, Brown, Cozens, Dandridge, Dawson, Deamer, Fordham, Grimes, Hudson, Knight, Langley, Lovett, Mabbot, Pool, Ransom(e), Raspberry, Richardson, Slade, Smith, Steel, Stewart, Stonell, Turner, White, Wickham, Wornall / Wornell.
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Cambs, Glasgow, Glos, Hunts, London, Kent, Norfolk, Oxon, Staffs, Warwicks, Wilts
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johnP-bedford
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Thanks Wendy - very helpful
Did Robert's father John Allen who died Dec 1840 do so in Huntindonshire or Middlesex. As his mother & 2 brothers are there in 1841, it explains why Robert married local girl Sarah Taylor of Shoreditch in 1834.
Also noticed Bridget Peters married George Warren in Mar 1853 on same vol/page as John Allen & Charlotte Allen.
Now going back a generation using info from Brampton PR, you may know this - if so could you please confirm.
Matthew Allen of Alconbury, married Bridget Woodley of Buckden, on Dec 12 1780, they had ... christenings at Brampton
John Allen 4 Nov 1781
Mathew Allen 25 July 1785
Bridget Allen 22 July 1792
William Allen 22 June 1795 -- buried 20 July 1795
Eunice Allen 24 July 1796 -- buried 27 Jan 1797
William Allen 25 June 1798
Eunice Allen 15 June 1800
Rhoda Allen 25 Dec 1803 -- buried 14 May 1804
note mother Bridget Allen buried 25 Dec 1803 age 47 (so born abt 1756)
.... & father Matthew Allen buried 4 March 1833 age 73 (so born abt 1760)
A Matthew Allen, widower married Ann Bird widow on 14 Feb 1804
Most times Matthew is described as a labourer, but on the burials of wife Bridget & final daughter Rhoda he is a woodman.
Regards John
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Hello John, i too am researching that same family ,robert is my 4x grandfather someone was kind enough to send me the link to this post as this is where i have got to in my research, so where do you fit in i am so curious. thank you carrij
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