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Beckey
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Bervie - Lownie
« on: Wednesday 23 August 06 11:31 UTC (UK) »

Am looking for any details on the following family.

1841 Gourdon,Bervie,Kinkardineshire.
Alexander Lownie 30 Whitefisher, Ann 30 (nee Gowan), David 12, Margaret 10, Ann 8, Christina 6, Andrew 4 Hugh 1. and Elizabeth b.1847.
Elizabeth married a Roderick Forsyth in 1867 at Benholm.

Any information appreciated.
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Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 August 06 14:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi Beckey,

Could you give me an idea of what you are trying to find ?
Marriages of Alexander & Ann's children ?
I have access to the Bervie Census for every ten years after 1841, and also the Bervie Parish Register.

Bervonian.
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 August 06 10:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bervonian,
Thanks for replying, what I am after is any info on Elizabeth Lownie and Roderick Forsyth.

Roderick was shown born Benholm ca.1843, parents John Forsyth & Mary Bain, they were shown 1841 in Cromarty and could have moved after that date.

Elizabeth shown born (IGI)  ca.1847 Bervie, parents Alexander Lownie & Ann Gowan.

On Marriage cert. 9/11/1867 Johnsaven, Roderick age 24 Sacking Weaver living Johnsaven, Benholm (father dec.).
Elizabeth, Domestic age 20 living Gourdon, Bervie.

In 1881 the family (6 children) living Queen St. Bervie and that is as far as I have got at the moment, cost mounting up with "scotlandspeople".

The Forsyth side goes down through John 1868 to a marriage with Elizabeth Wait, my wife's aunt.
So any thing would be a help thank you.

Beckey
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Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 July 07 23:01 UTC (UK) »

alexander lownie born 2/5/1806 (son of alexander and ann gowan!!!)

ann gowan born 19/1/1807 (daughter of Alexander and Helen Kemlo)

married october 1827

lownie children from marriage:

margaret- 15/4/1831
annabella- 31/3/1832
andrew- 5/12/1836
hugh- 30/9/1840
twins- alexander & jane- 31/7/1843
elizabeth- 1847
john-1851

alexander lownie was born 12/8/1776 (son of david and mary jamie)

ann gowan was born 27/9/1780 (dau of alexander and isabella allan)

they married 28/7/1801

lownie children from the marriage

david- 20/3/1803
andrew-6/4/1805
alexander(yours)
ann- 3/6/1809
isabel- 21/2/1812
alexander-24/8/1813 (why 2 alexander's)

david(1803) married christian stewart and had a son david born 1/6/1825


alexander gowan married isabel allan on the 26/12/1767

gowan children from the marriage

james-1768
isabel-1770
lileas-1771
robert-1773
john-1775
john-1776
elizabeth-1778
anne-1780
margargret-1784


alexander gowan married helen kemlo

gowan children from the marriage

robert-24/3/1801
alexander-21/4/1803
helen-14/12/1804
ann-yours
david-8/9/1808
james-12/8/1810
hugh-12/1/1814
isobella-11/11/1817
margaret- 1820


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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 July 07 09:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Joe again,

That has filled a few more holes, thanks.
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Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 January 09 15:08 UTC (UK) »

Dear Joekar
While browsing through the Bervie stuff I came across your reply and was wondering if the Hugh Lownie 30/9/1840 might be the same Hugh that I have that married Isabel Grieve Mowat 2/12/1864. Although I have his birth date as 11/101840 that might in fact be his christening date. If this where the case I can see a lot more of this family linking to mine.

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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 January 09 21:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Donovan.
I trawled through ScotlandsPeople and found that there were 5 Hugh Lownie deaths between 1866 and 1915.  They are:

d. 1876 Bervie aged 1
d. 1886 Angus aged less than 1 year
d. 1899 aged less than 1 year
d. 1907 aged 25
d. 1915 Benholm aged 74

The last one may be the Hugh who married Isobel Grieve Mowatt.
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 January 09 22:15 UTC (UK) »

This is the Hugh that married Isabel Grieve Mowatt.  I feel confident that the Hugh Lownie that you had as 30/9/1840 born to Alexander Lownie and Ann Gowan is in fact the same as mine and that my date of 11/10/ 1840 is rather the baptism date and not the birth date. It came off a piece of paper that was handed down through the family.

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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 January 09 23:55 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for the birth information of a William Lownie, who emigrated to the United States sometime around 1855-56. In the 1860 US census it states that he is age 29 (b 1931). In the 1870 census he is 43 (b 1827). The only information I have is the he came from Scotland.

His children were:
William Alexander
Elizabeth
Christina
Mary Ann
Michael
Ellen
Carrie

William Alexander's son was named Chester Alexander, causing me to think that Alexander may have been a family name, perhaps the father of William who emigrated??

Not much to go on, but wondered if anyone had access to census for perhaps the 1830s and 40s.

Christine
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 February 09 10:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Christine.  The 1841 Census of Forfar, Piece: SCT1841/288  has this:

Duke's Wood

George Lownie   34       Linen Hand Loom Weaver        born Angus
Mary          "        33                                                               "
George      "          6                                                               "   
David         "          3                                                               "
William       "         10 months                                                 "
Agnes        "         40                                                              "
Bell Wood             10        Female Servant                             "

The Agnes Lownie aged 40 looks to be George's sister.  The IGI  has an extracted entry showing that a David Lownie and an Agnes Shepherd         
had a son George Lownie born 24 Nov 1805, Forfar.  I cannot find his parents marriage.  Unfortunately I cannot follow them up in the 1851 Census as the ScotlandsPeople website is down at the moment.

Regards,
Isles.

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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 February 09 13:23 UTC (UK) »

Thanks so much for the quick reply. That might be a bit late for William - his first son was born in 1856 in Philadelphia, but thena again, he might have married young.

Christine
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 June 09 14:50 UTC (UK) »

I have a Robert Lownie who married an Annie Munro and they would be born around the 1850s or 60s I think
Robert had a brother John and their Mother was Margaret Lownie

I can find no information on Margaret on who she was married to or if she was married.

She was from Gourdon or Bervie

If you can shed any light on the above I would be grateful

Perhaps the Bervonian can help ....how do I get in touch with him ?
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 June 09 15:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jamesgee

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley

This looks a possible for Robert's birth:

ROBERT LOWNIE  Birth: 16 JUL 1858 in Bervie, Kincardine
Parents: MARGARET LOWNIE

JOHN CRUICKSHANK OR LOWNIE  Birth: 29 OCT 1864 Bervie, Kincardine
Parents:JOHN CRUICKSHANK and MARGARET LOWNIE - the way John's entry has been written up would normally imply parents were not married.

There is a marriage showing for them later on 21 JAN 1865 in Bervie, Kincardine.

This looks like them in 1871:

John Cruickshank 37, farm servant, b. Glenbervie, Kincardine
Margaret Cruickshank 39, b. Bervie
John Cruickshank 6, b. Bervie
Isabella Simpson 7, daughter ? b. Fetteresso, Kincardine
William Simpson 6, son b. Fetteresso, Kincardine
Man Lees 34, servant b. Fetteresso, Kincardine
James S Lees 7, b. Montrose, Forfarshire 

Address: Cottar House On Townhead, Arbuthnott, Kincardineshire

Where would Robert be I wonder?

Monica
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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 18 June 09 16:48 UTC (UK) »

There is a birth of a Margaret Lownie at Bervie on 15 April 1831, the parents being Alexander Lownie and Ann Gowan.

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Re: Bervie - Lownie
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 18 June 09 22:36 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Monica & Isles

I think this is probably the correct Robert Lownie although I have him as born 1855 but I can't remember where I got that from ....probably the marriage details ...he married an Annie Munro and I do not have a date for that either.

Perhaps I got the DOB from his son's birth details ( my Grandfather James Lownie )  ....that's more likely.

Monica, 1831 I assume is a census year and Robert would be 13 so perhaps he had left to work elsewhere ?

Thanks for the info on Margaret Isles ....is that as far back as records go ?

James
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