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Topic: Where are they? Lost in 1901, Middlesbrough (Read 1081 times)
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alllegs
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Thank you Winston and Slee,
Winston - William Williams occ on his marriage cert was Iron Worker, his father James was a General Labourer.
Slee, I have no idea about emigration, it never even crossed my mind. Martha (Pattie) definately emigrated, she ended up in Miami, she left the UK in about 1925. In the late 1940's Elizabeth Ann Hewitts daughter Evelyn and family moved out to the US also.
Margaret stayed in the UK, she died in Middlesbrough in 1927. As for the rest - I have no idea!
Another snippit of info from my new cousins - they have a death notice for a Rachel Donaghy, aged 9, 7 January 1938. She was buried at Eston Cemetery. My cousin thinks that she was the daughter of one of Martha (pattie) and Margarets sisters. I cannot find a marriage for an Amy or Rachel Williams to a Mr Donaghy, neither can I find a birth for Rachel, I have searched from 1921-1930 so far. I did however find 2 Donaghy births with mothers maiden name as Williams, Kathleen in Septh 1/4 1925 and Francis December 1/4 1921, both in the district of Middlesbrough.
I was wondering if Rachel's grave at Eston was still standing? she was buried in section M grave number 563....would the MI give us any clues?
Sorry I'm adding more confusion! My head is about to explode!!
Thank you all for your help.
Love
Legs
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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winston
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Theres also a Patrick Donaghy with Williams for mums maiden name in 1931.
Will keep hunting
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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alllegs
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Thank you Wendy,
Any sign of Rachel??
Love
Legs
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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winston
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HI Allegs
In a word, no, sadly.
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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alllegs
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Oh dear.....
I think I have found Martha's birth record so I'll email the RO and check the parents just to be sure, shame I can't find any of the other sisters birth records to confirm their existance!!
UPDATE - - - I have found a birth in 1895 for a Rachel Williams and a birth in 1892 for an Amy Isabel Williams, have emailed the relevant RO's to ask for parent confirmation...fingers crossed.
No sign of Margaret though, apparently she was known as Meg or Meggie
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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winston
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Allegs
Maybe the other children including this new one Rachel Donaghy were born overseas maybe the parents were in the Forces.
Maybe the marriage for the Donaghy Williams is on that register as well.
So could it be worth checking the GRO overseas section?
Wendy
Ps Hadn't seen your Update
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alllegs
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I am hoping that the mother of the Donaghy children in either Rachel or Amy Isabel Williams, but I cannot find a marriage between a Williams and a Donaghy.....
How do I find overseas records?
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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winston
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Allegs
Heres the web address but you have to buy credits!
http://www.1837online.com/HomeServlet
and then click on Births marriages and deaths, then from the page that loads click on births overseas ( its the third one in the first column).
And from this page you can also search for the marriages as well.
Wendy
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winston
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HI Allegs
I am sending you a PM
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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alllegs
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Thank you for your PM Wendy, I have emailed the lady on genesreunited, I'll be back as soon as I have a reply!
Thank you for your super sleuthing skills!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
I see in the 1901 census that Margaret is age 8, I expect you've seen these births already, but just in case 
Margaret WILLIAMS Dec Q 1892 Middlesbrough v.9d p.586
Margaret WILLIAMS Jun Q 1893 Middlesbrough v.9d p.643
Regards
Daisy
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alllegs
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Hi Daisy,
Thank you, yes I have seen those births, I have emailed the registry office and I'm awaiting confirmation of the parents.
I have also received confirmation about Martha Jane (aka Pattie) and Rachel Williams births, their parents were indeed William and Jane Williams formerly Thomas. So at least I know they existed!!
However Amy Isabel Williams is not the daughter of William and Jane Williams
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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winston
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HI
So you're making a bit of headway but still does not find the young Williams family!
Forever searching
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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alllegs
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Thank you for keeping searching Wendy!
I now also know that Margaret is buried in Eston Cemetery with her parents Jane, who died in 1902 aged 29 and William who died in 1895 aged 35, that'll be why we can't find William....but where the heck is Jane and the other 2 children?
Unfortunately the graves are unmarked.....
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams |
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winston
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Legs
By eck you don't waste time do you. I expected that you'd be waiting ages for some confirmation about the grave of Margaret and whether she would have family with her or not.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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