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Topic: marriage and baptism/births in Alloa? (Read 1368 times)
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kathox
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I would love it if someone could help with this...
I am trying to find a marriage for Thomas Robertson and Jean Wallace in Alloa or somewhere else in Clackmannershire. It would be around 1779 as I have found a baptism for their daughter Catherine in Alloa that year.
I think they then moved to Stirling in Stirlingshire before 1781 where the next child was born.
If the marriage was earlier there may be more children also.
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Kathox
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kathox
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KateNZ,
Yes, thankyou for the suggestion, but I exhausted all the info Scotlands people had to offer before making any posts on Rootschat. I was hoping someody with access to parish records might be able to help me further.
Kathox
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llewellyn
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I have been trying to find a birth record for james Izatt born in 1854 or 1855 mother Elizabeth Izatt maiden also Izatt I think he may be illegitmate any answers out there
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Llewellyn
Welcome to Rootschat!
The only entry that fits on IGI is an actual extract from the Old Parish Registers:
JAMES IZZATT Birth: 25 APR 1854/ Christening: 14 MAY 1854 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
Parents: Father: GEORGE IZZATT Mother: ELIZABETH PATERSON
Have you been able to confirm mother's maiden name through any documents?
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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From a parent search with these names (Izzat and Paterson) on IGI there are a number of submitted and actual birth/marriage records for children to this couple. Do you know of any siblings to your James that would help you confirm whether you have the right family?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Llewellyn
On the 1861 Census, there are two James Izatt showing, both age 6. Either one could potentially be yours. One is in DUNFERMLINE LANDWARD/FIFE and the other is in RUTHERGLEN, GLASGOW CITY/LANARK.
I also noticed there is a marriage on IGI between a James Izatt and an Elizabeth Izatt, an actual extract from the OPRs:
ELIZABETH IZAT Marriages: Spouse: JAMES IZAT
Marriage: 27 NOV 1843 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
These are the children showing for this couple, including a James:
1. GEORGE IZATT Birth: 19 FEB 1844/ Christening:14 APR 1844 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
2. JAMES IZATT Birth: 12 DEC 1858 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
3. WILLIAM IZATT Birth: 02 DEC 1860 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
4. WILLIAM IZATT Birth: 02 APR 1856 Saline, Fife, Scotland
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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llewellyn
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thank you for your answers elizabeth"s maiden is izatt her mother and father were william and janet izatt. she married a william keddie when James was 6 years old and believe that is why he sometimes referred to william as his fatherbut he was not,. James later married a mary dryburgh and had 12 children one which was my grandfather Richard Izatt. Thank you again
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MonicaLesl
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Llewellyn
Have you viewed the marriage cert. for Elizabeth Izatt and William Keddie in 1863 in Dunfermline, Fife?
Monica
PS You might be able to tell that I still have hopes for the James Izatt & Elizabeth Izatt family. A James Izatt died in Fife in 1861. I am wondering if it might have been a second marriage for your Elizabeth. The marriage cert would show status, i.e. spinster/ widow.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Llewellyn
The 1871 Census clearly shows just one child for Elizabeth now in the Keddie household. James son with an age of 17 and birth in Clackmannan. The other James and Elizabeth I think are just a 'red herring'....pity!
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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shirldeen
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I am trying to find the marriage of John Hall and Margaret?..children Francis born abt. 1830 and Robert Bruce born abt. 1833..1841 census has them in Clackmannan..francis came to Canada in 1854 my GrGrGrandfather and brother Robert Bruce went to England, and help would be appreciated
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Shirldeen
Welcome to RootsChat 
There are actual extracts for the christenings of a Francis and Robert on IGI, although the years look a little earlier than what you have:
FRANCIS HALL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 FEB 1824 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
ROBERT HALL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 OCT 1826 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
This looks like the parents' marriage, an actual extract from the OPRs on IGI:
JOHN HALL Marriages: Spouse: MARGARET MCARTHUR
Marriage: 18 FEB 1808 Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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golfer
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I would like to clarify and further amplify Shirldeen's posting. John Hall (b.1797)Clackmannan (d. 17 June 1860), wife Margaret (suspect Thomson)b.1795. They appear together in the 1841 Scotland census with two sons Francis(b.1829) and Rbt Bruce(b.1833). In the 1851 census Francis reappears in Salsburg, Lanarkshire, Scotland lodging with a Marshall family. He immigrated to Canada in 1854. Rbt Bruce reappears in the 1881 British census in Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England with his wife Sarah and two dtrs Mary and Margaret. He was a Master Mariner. Need to cfm John's wife Margaret's family name, date of marriage and her date of death. Finally, it is suspected John and Margaret also had at least one other son, named John. I apologize for this lengthy reply. For Monica - it appears your individuals are not of the right line. Cheers, Golfer. May I suggest that Shirldeen's original posting, and Monica and Golfer's reply's be removed from the Marriage and baptisms/births in Alloa posting as they are unrelated and place them with John Hall - Clackmannanshire. Is it possible to do this?
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