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Topic: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70. (Read 909 times)
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
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Hi Lesanne,
I've found a Robert Norris registered in June qtr 1870 in Holborn 1b, 596.
Could this be him?
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX, Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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nanny jan
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"Russian" John
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Hi Lesanne,
Have not yet spotted a Kilburn registration district; probably part of a bigger area.
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX, Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto)
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dawnsh
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Hi Lesanne
So, you've got the birth cert.......
Verulam Street still exists, heres a link to multimap, it's the street in the red circle without a name opposite Grays Inn
http://tinyurl.co.uk/dq70
I can send you a scan from the 1937 Authentic Map Directory of London and the Suburbs if you want which also shows the street.
But still, Kilburn and Holburn are 2 distinct areas of London, his parents must have got it wrong, (or this isn't your gt grandad)
Maybe Andrew and Mary Ann didn't marry and everyone assumed they were husband and wife. The freebmd marriage indeces from 1855 to 1885 are mostly complete and nothing shows up.
As your Gt Grandad's history is a mystery, there might be something about his parents he didn't want others to know.
(just a wild suggestion, was Andrew already married, not able to divorce and couldn't marry Mary Ann so they just lived together as a couple?)
Like many of us, this could be your brickwall.
Dawn
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSherry-Paddington & Marylebone, Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley, Chandler-Chelsea
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Lesanne
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Hi Dawn, Yep, got the marriage cert of Andrew and MaryAnn . ( got this in 1965 ) Robert and Katharines too. The various children of Andrew and Mary Ann, show up in census as they travelled for work. ( Mostly Oxford, Berks, London Middx.)
Had a look on the 1901 and there is another Robert Norris, actually a couple of them giving the right age. Mine is definately the one in Hammersmith on 1901.  Suppose I need to find ALL of them, if just to be deleted..  I've also tried the death end of his life... that's just as much a puzzle as the start. I have just received this death cert... March 1919 aged 49, sounds good so far, then it shoots off to Stoke Poges, as a carpenter and only W.H.Daniels as informant. Robert worked with horses, his father and brother(s) on the railway, and who the heck is W.H. 
Thanks for your time Dawn, Lesanne
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett Cork=Howe NZ=Coxhead Canada=Fenn Cox Turner
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MJP
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Great-grandfather Private Arthur Henry Prior
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Hi Lesanne,
Just looking in to the proper reg dist for Kilburn.
According to GENUKI, Kilburn is "a hamlet and suburban district in the parishes of Hampstead and Willesden, Holborn division of the hundred of Ossulstone, county Middlesex, 2˝ miles from Hyde Park corner, and 4 N.W. of St. Paul's, London. " (from 1868 Gazeteer). Is this what he means when he says Kilburn as his birthplace?
If so, it is difficult to figure out which reg district it would be. At the time of his birth, the parish of Hampstead was in Hampstead District, and the parish of Willesden was in Hendon District.
Hope that helps...
MJP
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Information given in census transcriptions is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.ukEagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire), Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)
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