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Lesanne
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Still looking... for Ref Nos Kilburn Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 25 September 06 21:11 UTC (UK) »

 Thanks MJP.
   Another Robert in Hackey, as Dawn posted, has an Albert Stanley on the same page  Huh
Albert is a 'family name' there is a brother 'Andrew Albert'.

  Could Albert Stanley be a twin  Huh
      oooo... I'll get the flask and sarny's now....   Grin
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 09:56 UTC (UK) »

Re Stoke Poges, go here

http://www.stoke-poges.com/village/buildings.shtml#spark

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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 10:06 UTC (UK) »

Re the Hoborn birth cert,

This may not be your Robert.....

Had a look at the 1881 census for the Hackney Robert and Albert Stanley - twins.

Only Albert is listed, so I checked the Freebmd deaths looking for Hackney Robert(which I couldn't find coz it's not complete) but there is a death entry for Robert Norris June qtr 1870 Holborn 1b 396 aged 0  Sad

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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 18:25 UTC (UK) »

Thanks so much for your imput. How it helps so much when someone else's thought's are there.

   So Hackney Robert disappeared and Holburn Robert died.

                Argh...this is soooo frustrating.
                                                                     Cool Stay cool....
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 18:43 UTC (UK) »

 In 1881 Robert is with his father Andrew in Middx.  Undecided
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 28 September 06 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Hampstead and Hendon have nothing for a Robert. On to Paddington.  Grin
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 29 September 06 08:11 UTC (UK) »

I don't think Kilburn was ever a registration district.    I have one in my own research who was born Kilburn whose registration is Hendon (1866).

If you go to this map
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=524500&y=183500&z=3&sv=524500,183500&st=4&ar=N&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=524500&ay=183500 ,
and follow the arrows back and forth, you will see that it is in between Hampstead, Willisden, and Paddington.

If you go to http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/reg/mdx.htm , and click on various places, you will get an idea of what is in what.  Hendon included Willesden at that time.  Hampstead had its own district.  Parts of Paddington were in Kensington.
I think it had to have been one of these, most likely Hendon.

If you're not finding it, then I think it is either misspelled in the index, in which case you may never find it, or his birth wasn't registered.  Perhaps you should move on to parish registers, and look there instead.  Kilburn isn't a very big place, so you shouldn't have too many to look at.
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 29 September 06 18:35 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy Hello Loo, I bet you can guess my next question.  Wink
Where would I see the parish records for Kilburn?

There are 2 births registered in London between 1868-71, Hackney and Holburn.
Then we have a death of a Robert aged 0 in Holburn.

So only Hackney left.

Where was your Kilburn person found?

Thank you very much.  Lesanne.
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 29 September 06 21:23 UTC (UK) »

some info on St Mary Kilburn can be found here

http://tinyurl.co.uk/0vup

or there is St Augustine Kilburn

and St Lukes, West Kilburn

I suppose any deposited registers would be at the London Metropolitan archives but I don't have a copy of the Phillimore Atlas to double check for you.

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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #24 on: Friday 29 September 06 21:42 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that info Dawn. Quite a large church and it could be they went to the "new place" to have Robert baptized.

This family had all the children in different locations. Except the first 3, (which are only on IGI), in Islip, Oxon.

Typically, Robert is my family. All the rest I have found their reg dist.
              Roll Eyes  Lesanne.
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 01 October 06 04:32 UTC (UK) »

It might be useful to know that the correct spelling is Holborn - when trying to google it or whatever - although I doubt he's in Holborn anyway.

My Kilburn person shows on the census (repeatedly, if I remember correctly) as b. Kilburn, but the only possible birth registration for him is Hendon.  I haven't sent for the cert, but I feel confident this is him, as the name, geography and date fit.  He's not a direct ancestor, so I didn't send for it.  His siblings are all registered, in Hampstead, Pancras and Kensington - all very close as well.

The LMA or the Society of Genealogists, or your local Mormon Family History Centre might be the places to look to see if there are parish registers extant. Phillimore's map book, especially the most recent edition, would be ideal for making sure you have covered the parishes in question.  And let's hope he wasn't non-conformist!

C.R. Humphery-Smith ed.  Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers.  2003 edition is best; view it at a library, as it's too expensive to buy if you're not a genealogist.
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BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
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Re: Kilburn or Holborn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 01 October 06 09:39 UTC (UK) »

 Hello Loo,
All this information, thank you very much for your trouble and time.

By the time I've found him....  Roll Eyes I should have quite a bit of info to share with others also looking in the same area.

                       Cheesy  Lesanne.
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Re: Kilburn or Holburn? Reg dist. 1869/70.
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 20 September 09 18:08 UTC (UK) »

http://www.thevirtualtourofhampstead.co.uk/kilburn.htm
 
 
Its says Kilburn High street gives the boundary between Camden and Brent.......... maybe this is the place, but they are not in reg dist's
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