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NooshieW
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Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« on: Thursday 31 August 06 11:32 UTC (UK) »
Dear Rootschatters,
Any suggestions please ,as I think we have covered everything in our search for our great Aunt Susan Rowe Jordan. She was born in Falmouth in 1855, she was a child prostitute and later witnessed her sisters wedding(her sister was Elizabeth Jane) in 1877. Then the trail goes cold.I cannot find a marriage for her or a death and we have looked extensively over the past couple of years. Maybe she went abroad? We have looked on worldwide sites to no avail. Maybe she went to gaol!! If anyone can help we would be grateful.
Nooshie
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KernishKim
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 August 06 14:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi Nooshie!

Interesting one this!  Shocked

Have found her on 1871 Census:-

Thomas Jordan 40 Labourer

Harriet J  Jordan (wife) 37 Brothelkeeper

Susan R  Jordan (daur) 16 Prostitute

Elizabeth Smithers (lodger) 23 Prostitute

Annie Smithers (lodger) 6

Elizabeth A. Hatton (lodger) 23 Prostitute

Living at Market Street Falmouth


Have you managed to track down the family on any other census?

(This was the only one I managed to find Susan on)

Regs Kim
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:23 UTC (UK) »
Oh, my goodness, I can't believe this entry - mum putting daughter into prostitution and then putting it down as occupation.

They usually said 'Dressmaker'

Never seen an entry like this before. Can't get over it Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:28 UTC (UK) »
Kim - think you were a bit shocked as well - have a look at the image - Annie is a Smithers not a Jordan Smiley

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
KernishKim
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:51 UTC (UK) »
LOL Tricia!

Must admit I couldnt believe my eyes! Roll Eyes

Better change that poor child's surname!

Grin

Kim
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Dave Francis
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Cornelius Fisk Goodwin (1880-1961)
Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:54 UTC (UK) »
Can't say I'm shocked, but what I find amazing is the neighbours. If you look at the Census image the Jordan household is just one of at least half a dozen brothels all next door to each other in Market Street.

Not really sure what to suggest about Susan.  She may have died (unregistered), she may have married under a false name (possible in view of her past), she may have emigrated, etc etc.

Can't see her parents in 1881 - do we know what happened to them?

Dave
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast
KernishKim
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 August 06 17:41 UTC (UK) »
1861

Thomas Jorden 30 Labourer

Harriet Jane Jorden 27 Wife

Susan Row Jorden 6 Daur

Elizth Jane Jorden 3 Daur

Jos Edwin Jorden 14 Boarder (mason)

Lavinia Penrose 20 Boarder (Seamstress)

Living Penryn


Smiley

Kim

Behave you lot!

Mind you I did at first read Seamstress as Temptress on original image!
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KernishKim
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 August 06 18:05 UTC (UK) »
1881 Census

Harriet  J Jordan Head Widow aged 47 Seamstress

Living 19 Smithick Hill Falmouth

Cheesy

Kim
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Cornelius Fisk Goodwin (1880-1961)
Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 August 06 18:54 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: KernishKim on Thursday 31 August 06 18:05 UTC (UK)
1881 Census

Harriet  J Jordan Head Widow aged 47 Seamstress

Living 19 Smithick Hill Falmouth

 Cheesy

Kim

It's normally around now that we start to speculate on the real meaning of 'Seamstress' in Census returns ...
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast
KernishKim
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 31 August 06 18:57 UTC (UK) »
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You start!!!.........................


Wink

KK xx
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NooshieW
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 September 06 14:37 UTC (UK) »
I am glad everyone has had a laugh at our expense, but we had all that info already and have got used to the idea. Our great grandmother probably also went into 'the trade', but believe me her children were very respectable and my grandmother was a school caretaker. We are talking about Falmouth in the 1860's and life was very different for very poor people. Apparently Falmouth was an absolute den of iniquity. We just don't know what happened to Susan, it is the last piece of that family puzzle to fill in. We have all the other BMD's etc.
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NooshieW
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 September 06 14:40 UTC (UK) »
Note to Dave Francis: Yes we do know what happened to the parents -both died in their 40's (haven't yet checked to see what the mother died of!!).
Nooshie
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KernishKim
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Re: Any suggestions?can't find a relative!!
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 September 06 15:17 UTC (UK) »
Hiya Nooshie

If you go to the Cornwall legacy website they have cd's of the Christian Circuits - records of visiting minister's baptisms.

I have the Penzance areas but doesnt  cover Falmouth.

The information hasnt been put onto IGI yet.

May be worth having a look - if Susan had any children they could have been baptised as Methodists etc.

Good Luck in your search.

Regs Kim
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