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Albert SWEETMAN
« on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:05 BST (UK) »

Can anyone help with any info on Albert Victor Sweetman born around 1887 -1888 who lived in Buckingham, married a lady called Carrie ? and is believed to have had a farm in the area.

Any help much appreciated.
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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:13 BST (UK) »

Hi Pilandray,

What sort of information are you looking for?  Smiley

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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:22 BST (UK) »

Just a cursory look - the only specific match for the full name shows a Wincanton Dorset birth 1887 and a Hants marriage 1904 (but with no Carries in the record).

Nothing yet transcribed in FreeBMD for the Bucks area .... could have moved there as a youngster ?

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EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:29 BST (UK) »

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

An Albert Victor SWEETMAN
married in 1904 in South Stoneham, Hampshire
June Quarter  2c 168

The only ladies on the same page were
Edith Harriett LEWIS and Mary Ann BARTON


Carrie could have been a pet name for Harriett, do these names ring a bell ??

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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:36 BST (UK) »

 Grin Grin Grin

An Albert Victor SWEETMAN
was born in 1887 in Wincanton, Dorset, Somerset
Dec Quarter  5c 442


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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:39 BST (UK) »

Some more info on Albert Victor Sweetman.

1891 census
RG12/1903  folio 117  page 2
Church St, Wincanton,  Somerset

Richard Sweetman  age 38  Builder & Farmer  b  wincanton
Ellen  wife   age 35   b  Holton
Douglas D H   son  age 6    b  Wincanton
Leonard H  son  age 4    b   ditto
Albert V.  son  age 3     b   ditto
Francis C  son  age 2    b    ditto
Doris F.  dau   age 1     b    ditto
Mary E. Bond  age 15   Gen serv  n  Glanton

1901 census
RG13/2305  folio  61  page  5
The Common,, Wincanton

Benjamin  Sweetman  age 72  Ret'd Mason  b  Wincanton
Mary Ann   wife  age 72        b   ditto
Albert V.  grandson  age 13   b    ditto

This was the only Albert Sweetman shown in any census

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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:39 BST (UK) »

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1891 Census
RG12/1903
Church Street
Wincanton
Somerset


Richard SWEETMAN/Head/38/Builder & Farmer/Wincanton
Ellen SWEETMAN/35/Holton, Somerset
Douglas D H SWEETMAN/Son/6/Wincanton
Leonard H SWEETMAN/Son/5/Wincanton
Albert V SWEETMAN/Son/3/Wincanton
Francis C SWEETMAN/Son/2/Wincanton
Doris F SWEETMAN/Dau/1/Wincanton

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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:40 BST (UK) »

I can see 2 Albert Victor Sweetman, the one Anne and Meliora just mentioned an another one born 1880 Kensington:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=13201698
The latter is in Hampshire (in South Stoneham registration district) in 1901 so I'd rather think he's the one who marries in Hampshire in 1904...

 
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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 September 06 11:55 BST (UK) »

 Grin Grin Grin

An Edith Alberta E SWEETMAN
was born in 1905 in South Stoneham
June Quarter  2c 66


Does this ring any bells ??

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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 September 06 12:03 BST (UK) »

Looks like we have all found the same basic info ..

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Just a cursory look - the only specific match for the full name shows a Wincanton Dorset birth 1887 and a Hants marriage 1904 (but with no Carries in the record).
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 September 06 12:13 BST (UK) »

 Grin Grin Grin

I've looked at the 1881 Census and that Albert V SWEETMAN's age is shown as 12 months, and his brother Alfred's is shown as 1 month, which is very odd, as such an age would usually be shown as 1year, also, there's no birth record for 1880.  However, there is one for 1879 in Kensington, London and I'm inclined to think this is he but that his age should have been shown as 2 on 1881 Census.  I think this rules him out as the correct candidate, as he was born too early.   Also, his father was a carpenter, whereas the other Albert's father was a farmer.

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Re: Albert Sweetman
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 September 06 13:20 BST (UK) »

Wow,

What a response to my query!

The Wincanton bit fits in well as my grandmother came from there and her father was Richard.
It was only a guess that Albert was related as I read the info in a letter to her where he was talking about his wife Carrie who was a schoolmistress and his children Ann And Russell. He said he was farming in Buckingham.

Thank you all so much for all the help. I can now graft him onto my family tree!

Kind regards,
Pilandray.
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Cole, Hutton, Betteridge, Dedamess, Elcock, Dennis, Bramley, Winter, Hunt, Gardner, Hiscock, Sweetman, Shute, Trimby, Brooks, Howes, Lydford, Read, Hannam, Cox, Raymond, Spearing, Doggerel, Cossen, Green, Colborn, Bennett.               Hampshire, Dorset, Somerset, Wiltshire areas.
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