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Anjo
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where would the man be buried
« on: Saturday 02 September 06 21:39 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

    I have a Thomas Roe who  is  living in  the Workhouse in Offcote and Underwood, Ashbourne, 1881 and again in 1891 and  who died in  1897. I would presume that he died in the Workhouse (He would have been abt 73 years old)
My question is would they bury him  in his home village of Snelston (which is only a few miles down the road) with his wife or bury him  in Offcote and Underwood.

Did workhouses have their own plots for paupers or what was the story...  anyone with any insight on  this please enlighten me.

all the best Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 September 06 23:00 BST (UK) »

hiya anjo
had a look on free bmd theres a thomas roe died june 1897
aged 83 volume number 7b page 360 district ashbourne
it would give an address on the dearth cert if that is him of course  Grin
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 September 06 23:02 BST (UK) »

Hi thanks for that......but.......if he died in the workhouse thats the address it would give....wouldn't tell me where he was buried...


Thanks anyway.

all the best angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 September 06 23:22 BST (UK) »

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Ashbourne/Ashbourne.shtml
hiya have a look at this site it covers a bit on deaths  Grin
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 September 06 10:33 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Think you will find a number of options re burial of a workhouse inmate.

1.  Families would be informed of death, and if they could afford
     to bury their relative would take possession of the body.

2.  Board of Guardians would arrange for burial, in local Church Yard or
     burial ground  in unmarked grave, possibly with other unrelated 
     individuals.
     
3.  Bodies donated for medical research.

4.  Parish from where the inmate originated may have been responsible
     for burial, this could have taken place in that parish but more likely
     in the Parish of actual death - again all down to costs.

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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 September 06 10:51 BST (UK) »

Thanks Spendlove,

                     thats most helpful.   Would you know if the board of Guardians would keep records of deaths and how  the body was disposed?  I know Derbyshire record office hold the Board of Guardian minute books....would that hold any clues???

I get to Derbyshire once a year  for one day and have to fit all my lookups in that tight schedule...so I have to try and organise what I'm looking for to maximise my time.

Thanks again you've been very helpful

All the best Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 September 06 11:08 BST (UK) »

Hi
To be certain of what the Minutes contain for Ashbourne Guardians I would
e-mail the County Record Office at Matlock and ask:-
 record.office@derbyshire.gov.uk

There is another Web Page:-
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

These records are all too early for your Thomas Roe, however if you e-mail
Mike Spencer he would probably be able to answer your question.  The site
makes a charge if they supply you with copies of documents etc., it is worth
a try.

Spendlove
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 September 06 11:12 BST (UK) »

Thanks a million  for all your help.

I will go and check that web page out.

Thanks again Ange.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 September 06 20:10 BST (UK) »

Presume you know about the wishful-thinking site with Snelston MIs. There  are Roe names but not Thomas.
www.wishful-thinking.org.uk or just google Snelston MI's and you get that page.

My g-g grandparents are buried in Snelston so I've been a couple of times.

Jo
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Re: where would the man be buried
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 September 06 20:28 BST (UK) »

Thanks  Jo,



                        yes I do know about the wishful thinking site but thanks for passing it on anyway.
I visited Snelston for the first time myself this year and what an amazing unique village it is. I was round the graveyard for myself and none of my rellies are fortunate to have a tombstone so its  from parish records and  other sources I have to work from.

Thanks for everything

all the best Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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