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Topic: OPR /Marriage/ Amos in Larbet 1840. (Read 315 times)
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Billy
Catherine and James's marriage took place prior to official registration in 1855 in Scotland. Their marriage is recorded on the Old Parish Registers (OPRs). On IGI you will see it shows the entry is an actual extract from the OPRs. Sadly, most entries in the OPRs will simply be a one liner with the bride and groom's name and not much else. Very seldom were the parents' names included. You could order a copy of the entry from the OPR direct from Scotlands People (or order the film for this register at your LDS centre) but be aware it is a lucky dip!
Another way to try and gather info is to look at the names of their children and see whether they followed Scottish naming patterns (first son after father's father, first daughter after mother's mother etc.). From IGI, these children show for them:
1. JOHN GRAHAM Birth: 12 APR 1842 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
2. CATHERINE GRAHAM Birth: 27 FEB 1849 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
3. JAMES GRAHAM Birth: JUL 1845 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
4. MARY GRAHAM Birth: 28 JAN 1841 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
5. RACHEL GRAHAM Birth: 28 OCT 1843 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
For example, using the naming pattern above, their first son was called John and second daughter was called Rachel. If the theory works (and it doesn't always!) James Graham's parents would be John and Rachel. There is a submitted entry on IGI that would fit:
JAMES GRAHAM Birth: 19 DEC 1813 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland
Parents: Father: JOHN GRAHAM Mother: RACHEL WILKINSON
If James and Catherine died in Scotland, you should be able to find their death certs which will confirm their parents' details. There is one entry on SP for the death in Stirlingshire of a Catherine Graham, other name Amos, in 1879 who is showing as born in 1812 which looks a strong contender!
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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apanderson
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Hi Billy,
How did you're wee holiday back home go?
Guess where your Catherine is . . . . . yup - Denny!!!
Here's the inscription fom the stone:
Erected by David Anderson in loving remembrance of his wife
CHRISTINA GRAHAM who died 30th April 1880 aged 31 years
Also his son WILLIAM who died June 23rd 1875 aged 5 years
Also his mother in law CATHERINE AMOS who died 18th March 1879 aged 67 years
JEANIE his daughter died 20th June 1894 aged 1 year 5 months
ALEXANDER RANKIN ANDERSON died 24th November 1896 aged 27 years
Also DAVID ANDERSON who died 14th October 1924 aged 78 years
Also his wife MARGARET McINNES RAMSAY died 19th November 1929 aged 74 years
Also his son DAVID who died 5th June 1949 aged 72 years.
Did you find this stone in Denny? If not, have a wee look at this thread : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,27672.15.html
Send me a PM if you want a copy of the original.
Anne.
P.S. I'll have a look in the BVR's and see if I can anything further to the info Monica kindly posted.
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apanderson
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Hi Billy,
I found another 2 James Graham's and given the connection with Denny and Larbert could be contenders for Catherine's husband.
James GRAHAM, born19 May 1811, christened 30 Jun 1811, Kilsyth, Stirlingshire.
Father: James GRAHAM Mother:Margaret ANDERSON
James Richardson GRAHAM, born 17 Apr 1811, christened 5 May 1811, Denny, Stirlingshire.
Father: John GRAHAM Mother: Janet URE
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MonicaLesl
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Billy
In your position, I would view the death cert on Scotlands People at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for his wife Catherine Amos/Graham in 1879. This would let you confirm for sure you have the right death (although with Anne's additional info re the MI it looks likely). So, apart from confirming this Catherine was married to a James Graham, it would also confirm her parents details and state whether she was a widow at the time of her death or whether James Graham was still alive. It's a start!
You can then start looking for James' death details on SP with a better window of time for your searches.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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