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MonicaLesl
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 07 September 06 10:20 BST (UK) »

Hi LA.Blue

Welcome to Rootschat!

There is one entry on IGI for the birth of a Mary Blue to father Dugald. Only father's name is given, no mother's details. This is an actual extract from the Old Parish Registers (OPRs):

MARY BLUE  Christening:  24 JUN 1789   Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
Parents:Father: DUGALD BLUE

These are all the entries for births for that period in Kilcalmonell and Kilberry from IGI. So happens, they all have father showing as Dugald and no mother's details. I can't tell you whether they were siblings to Mary (or indeed, if the entry above is Mary's) but it might provide you with some clues. You might be able to trace them through to official registration from 1855 and verify through their death certs, if available, who their mother was:

1. DUGALD BLUE  Christening: 26 FEB 1784 Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
2. DUGALD BLUE Birth: 1811 Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
3. FLORY BLUE Christening: 16 OCT 1796 Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
5. MARY BLUE Birth: 18 NOV 1802 Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
6. ANGUS BLUE Christening: 29 JUL 1786 Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
7. ANGUS BLUE Birth: 20 OCT 1800 Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland

Where Christening dates are given, remember that christenings were sometimes days/months/years after their birth year and should be used as a guide re birth year only.

There are no marriage entries showing for Dugald and Christina Graham. Looking at the batch codes for IGI, it may be that OPRs are not available before certain dates for Kilcalmonell and Kilberry (see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyArgyll.htm#K:

C115161     1855-1875     M115161     1855-1875     
C115162     1777-1820     M115162     1784-1820     
C115164     1820-1854     M115164     1820-1855     
                                     M115165   -1823/-1832



The C codes are births/christenings and the M codes are marriages.

Regards.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 07 September 06 11:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Gerry, Merry and Blueth

Boy, am I relieved there is some ref to the sea for John's occupation from Dugald's marriage cert in Ireland!

If you could PM me with an email address, I'd be happy to send you further details of the certs. I have viewed.  My final contribution re John's parents, Dugald Blue and Mary Bell. This looks like them in the 1841 Census at http://www.freecen.org.uk/ (free census site)

Address: Achandiae,  Kilcalmonll-Kilberry-Argyllshire

BLUE       Dougald   43       Ag Labourer        Argyllshire    
BLUE       (Mrs)       44                  Argyllshire    
BLUE       Archibald    15                  Argyllshire    
BLUE       Colin       12                  Argyllshire    
BLUE       Christina    10                  Argyllshire    

I think this might be John working away from home:        

Address: Munichele, : Kilcalmonll-Kilberry-Argyllshire

MCNAIR   John    60       Farmer        Argyllshire        
MCNAIR   Christina   53               Argyllshire        
MCNAIR   Peter    20       Ag Labourer        Argyllshire        
MCNAIR   John    5                Argyllshire        
GALBRAITH    John    20       Ag Labourer        Argyllshire        
BLUE       John    14       Ag Labourer        Argyllshire    
MCMILLIAN    John    25       Shoemaker        Argyllshire
MCARTHUR    Bell    27       Female Servant    Argyllshire            
    
There is info on IGI re father Dougald Blue:
DUGALD BLUE     Marriages: Spouse: MARY BELL         
Marriage:  27 JAN 1821   Kilcalmonell And Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
Christening:     22 MAY 1797   Lochkiarran, Kilcalmonell, Argyll, Scotland
Death:     21 OCT 1879   Ardpatrick, Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland
Parents: Father:  Donald Blue   Mother: Margaret Brown

If you do a parent search on IGI (simply put in father Donald Blue and mother Margaret Brown and then click on British Isles/Scotland) you will see details of what looks like Donald Blue's siblings with submitted birth/christening/marriage/death details (luckily the family seem to have been well researched in this period).

This looks like details on Donald Snr:
Donald Blue  Birth: About 1767, Of Kilcalmonell, Argyll, Scotland
Death:  Before 1841      
Marriages: Spouse: Margaret Brown Marriage: 13 JAN 1792 

And Margaret Brown:
Margaret Brown  Birth: About 1771 Of Kilcalmonell, Argyll, Scotland
Death: Before 1851      
Marriages: Spouse: Donald Blue    


Mother Mary Bell died at the age of 89 in early 1881.    Parents David Bell and Elizabeth McMillan. Unfortunately, in Mary's case, I cannot easily see anything on IGI for her. If you search for her and husband Dugald in the 1851-71 censuses, it will give details of her birth place which at least will let you narrow down your research for her.
 

Regards to you all!

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 09 September 06 11:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Monica and Thrall, I am very much still with you, just rather overwhelmed by all this info! Takes a while to digest. I have a copy of Dugald's death cert. It states -DoD 3rd Feb 1928, age 75,Occup: commercial traveller, present at registration Dugald, place of death 3 Fairfield Park, Dublin.
I am going to try and get someone to investigate the few remaining census in Ireland. If they give place of birth there it'll probably just say Scotland, but it's worth a try.
Very many thanks for all your work, it'a amazing and so exciting. My e-mail is blue@onetel.com
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #18 on: Friday 20 October 06 21:55 BST (UK) »

My Great-grandmother was Anne Blue
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 21 October 06 02:44 BST (UK) »

Hi Catmac,

I searched this thread and don't see any mention of Anne Blue other than yours.  Can you provide some more information on your Great Grandmother?  Does she have roots in Kilmun?

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catmac
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 21 October 06 17:24 BST (UK) »

I will need to look up the Family Tree. She was married to Hugh McLean in Campbeltown. My grandmother was the eldest daughter, Euphemia.
I have no idea where Anne came from, but she died and is buried in Glasgow.
Where is Kilmun?
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 21 October 06 19:02 BST (UK) »

Kilmun is in Argyll.  Here is a Google Maps link to Kilmun.  http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Kilmun,+Scotland&ie=UTF8&z=9&ll=55.991613,-4.928484&spn=0.67285,2.746582&om=1
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 21 October 06 20:08 BST (UK) »

I will need to look up the Family Tree. She was married to Hugh McLean in Campbeltown. My grandmother was the eldest daughter, Euphemia.
I have no idea where Anne came from, but she died and is buried in Glasgow.
Where is Kilmun?

Any of her parents mentioned ?
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Dunn, Scott, Pick - Midlothian
Glen, Imray,Crow - Angus
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 21 October 06 21:04 BST (UK) »

Now that is interesting. We know that my Great-Grandfather ran away from home (in Mull) to 'mid Argyll' as a boy, and moved to Campbeltown later.
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 19 November 06 01:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi all, I´ve just found the DC of a worthy cleric slightly related to me, on Jura. If anyone is interested, there is also the death of an Anne Blue McKechnie age 2 3/4 years in 1876, Jura, daur. of Catherine Blue and Archibald McKechnie, shepherd. Both deceased.

PM me if interested.

Guid hunting,

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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 19 November 06 01:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi Thrall,

Do you think that is the same Catherine as the one (b.1860) mentioned on the first page of this topic?

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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 19 November 06 02:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi Gerry, I think its pushing it a bit to be born 1860 and have a 23/4 year old daughter die 1876. Good try though!

I would go for Catherine Blue b.21/09/1849 Jura, m. Archibald McEachern 04/06/1863, and there you see how good my eyesight is as I had him as McKechnie in my previous post......... Undecided  The registrar did have a dot though above the third or second last letter both times he wrote McK***** , just to cloud the issue; maybe he was hard of hearing.......... Huh

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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #27 on: Monday 20 November 06 12:29 GMT (UK) »

I think I may have made a mistake about my Great-Grandmother's name. It may have been Anne LUKE.  I think Luke is a Campbeltown name as well. There are Blues there too.
I will check with a relative on my grandmother's side.
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #28 on: Monday 08 June 09 15:49 BST (UK) »

I am looking for any information on a Christina Blue who was born about 1795 in Scotland (Argyllshire) who married a Donald Cameron born abt 1793.  The couple immigrated to Ontario, Durham Co., Canada in about 1834.  Some of their family was born in Scotland.  On my great-grandmother's death registration it states she was born in Argyllshire in abt. 1819  - she was one of the daughter's of Donald Cameron and Christina ( we think her maiden name was Blue).  My great-grandmother's name was Mary Cameron.  I have had difficulty finding any information on this family.  Donald and Christina's children were as follows: Mary, Agnes, Barbara, Catherine, Christina,  Malcolm, Elizabeth, Jane and Margaret.  Any information would be helpfull.  Thank you Joyce Brownell
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Re: Blue family, Kilmun
« Reply #29 on: Monday 08 June 09 18:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Joyce!  I have a Christiana Blue Christened March 23, 1795 who is the sister of my g.g. grandfather John Blue.  Their father and mother were Donald Blue and Margaret Brown.  My John Blue moved to Ireland.  I am guessing this is your Christiana.  Merry
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