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kizmiaz
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Hi
I'm new to this Family History stuff, so please forgive my naiveness.
After a few hours dedicated research (okay, a few lucky strikes on Familysearch.org), I have found out that my maternal great-great-grandfather was Henry Thomas Privett of Balcombe (although, by the time he got married, his surname had been changed to PREVETT)
The 1881 Census has him listed as living at 13 Balcombe Lane, with his wife, three kids, and his widowed mother. She is listed as 62 year old Mary Anne Privett, so she was born approx 1819 in Withyham, Sussex
My question is, can I use this info to find firstly her maiden name, and secondly, her husbands name, so that I may extend just one twig of the family tree a bit further back in time?
If anyone has any info about this family I would be extremely grateful for the help.
Thanks
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there
First of all, welcome to Rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards.
I think the 1851 census for Sussex may answer a few questions for you
HO107/1642 / Folio 154/ Page 45 - Balcombe Lane, Balcombe, Sussex
BREDEN Sarah, Head, Widow, 58, Pauper, born Ardingly, Sussex
Sarah, Dau, Unm, 25, Servant, born Ardingly
Joseph, Son, Unm, 17, Farm Labourer, born Balcombe
Mary, Gr Dau, Unm, 11months, Sarahs Daughter, born Brighton
PREVETT Mary A, Dau, Widow, 32, Pauper, born Withyham
William, Grd Son, Unm, 6, Scholar, born Slaugham, Sussex
Edward, Grd Son, Unm, 4, born Worth, Sussex
The above translates as Sarah a widow with 3 of her children (Joseph, Sarah and Mary A) and 3 grandchildren.
Joseph is unmarried as is Sarah, but Sarah has a daughter of 11 months.
The other daughter Mary A is also a widow, but has two children (William & Edward)
Hope that helps you
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Again
Here is the 1871 census for Sussex
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Benjamin Bridgen 24 Balcombe, Sussex, England Lodger Barcombe Sussex
Michael Humphrey 71 Balcombe, Sussex, England Lodger Barcombe Sussex
Edward Prevett 24 Worth, Sussex, England Son Barcombe Sussex
Henry Prevett 18 Balcombe, Sussex, England Son Barcombe Sussex
Mary A Prevett 52 Crowborough, Sussex, England Head Barcombe Sussex
Whoooooppps - Sorry
Your Henry has appeared as an 18 year old - meaning he was born in 1853 or thereabouts, but his mum was a widow in 1851 - Oh Dear, sorry.
I will post full reference details and a scan of the enumerators return in a moment
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Hi again
RG10/ 1060/ Folio 119/ Page 4 - Barcombe Lane, Barcombe, Sussex
Mary A has no Occupation
Both boys are Ag Labs
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~meg
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Hi Kizmiaz,
After the LDS site, it’s also interesting to go check the FreeBMD. Another great resource to go rooting through. (Of course, the best resource of all is our Sussex Moderator, the Honourable Marquessate Chris!) I had a quick search looking for Prevett marriages in Sussex with a Mary Ann.
There are a number of brides and grooms listed in the Sept Quarter, two of whom just happen to be a Prevett and a Mary Ann.
Sept Quarter 1844 (Vol.7, pg.464)
Edward Prevett
Mary Ann Breden
(District *East Grinstead)
*East Grinstead: Mainly in Sussex, but included parts of Surrey. Sub-districts: East Grinstead; Withyham; Worth.
Also on FreeBMD, there is a death entry for an Edward Privett 1847 March East Grinstead Vol 7, pg 323.
Good luck,
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Kizmiaz & Meg
Well done Meg for finding that marriage, and all the details tie in with the PREVETT and BREDEN surnames; and that death certificate again meets all the criteria that is required.
Kizmiaz, I think your next task would / should be to aquire copies of both that marriage and the death certificate to confirm all the details and prove it is your family.
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kizmiaz
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Wow!
Thanks for all the information.
I'm astonished at the quick responses (and the helpful translations of some of the data), and will hopefully be able to find a lot more with this great help.
Just another quick question. Was it usual practise in the 1850s to have the fathers name on a birth certificate when the parents were not married, as seems to be the case here with Henry Prevett, or was it more common to have the fathers name blank? And if the fathers name is missing, is there any other source to find his father?
Once again, many thanks for the help and advice. It will make things much easier now I know this site exists.
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi Kizmiaz
Happy to Help
Yes, the fathers name should be on the birth certificate - when it is not, it usually indicates the child is illigitimate. Sometimes the mother would not let on who the father was, but I think it is pretty certain in this case that it was not her husband.
Next step would be to look in the baptism Register at Balcombe Church to see if the child was baptized and if there are any comments as to his parentage.
Getting his birth certificate would also help clear up the matter.
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PS - Just as a matter of interest, how did you come by the name 'kizmiaz'
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kizmiaz
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Kizmiaz is a song by one of my favourite groups (The Cramps) from when I was younger. Its short and is usually the only name I can think of when registering on any site that hasn't been used!
Just a quick thing.
I've looked at the scan of the 1871 census, and wonder if the Benjamin Bridgen who is listed as a lodger may not in fact be Benjamin BUDGEN. Not that it has any connection with my family but it may be something which will help someone else
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi there
"Benjamin Bridgen who is listed as a lodger may not in fact be Benjamin BUDGEN".
It may well be, as Ancestry census transcriptions are notorious for glaring errors - it is always best to check transcription agains the scan. - but even a bad transcription can be very useful in locating ancestors (if you spend hours trying all possible permutations of the name)
If you need further help, you know where we are
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