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Dave Francis
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Cornelius Fisk Goodwin (1880-1961)
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Hi Carla
Hmm. I see what you mean. It's suspicious that she's not listed as "Emma Chaplin" in 1891 or 1901.
At a guess:
* her surname was badly mistranscribed on both occasions or
* she wasn't known by either of her first names or
* her father died when she was very young, her mother remarried and Mum and daughter are listed under a different surname.
In all honesty, you can only hope to get a better picture by ordering her birth and marriage certificates.
Dave
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSurnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast |
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The Yokel
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Hi Carla
There's an Emma M Chaplin 18 born Suffolk Needham Market in Beckenham Kent Housemaid Domestic on the 1901 census
found her on the 1901 census site
http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp?wci=person_search
I entered Emma, left the Surname blank
birth year 1882 +/- 2, born Suffolk
regards
yokel
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Dave Francis
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Well spotted Yokel!
Transcription as follows ...
1901 Beckenham Kent
RG13/688 folio 72 page 24
9 Cedar's Road
Cornelius Glanvill, head, 29, stockbroker, Brixton London
Geraldine do., wife, 30, Chenies Bucks
Emily Walker, cousin, m[arried], 37, Cape Town South Africa
Emily A James, servant, s[ingle], 46, cook domestic, Eckton Northamptonshire
Emma M Chaplin, servant, s, 18, housemaid domestic, Needham Market Suffolk
Still not sure about 1891 though ...
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« Last Edit: Tuesday 12 September 06 13:24 BST (UK) by Rick »
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSurnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast |
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suffolkmawther
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Hi Carla,
This looks like it could be one of Charlie Chaplin's extended family 
There was a long interesting article on his Suffolk roots in this Saturday's East Anglian Daily Times.
Will check it out again (I have saved it of course) and will get back to you.
Certainly Needham Market is a parish within the Bosmere and Claydon Hundred 
SM ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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suffolk*sue
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Heres a possible
1891
Phoebe PALMER - 65 - charwoman - born Thorpe Cross,Essex
Louise CHAPLIN - 8 - visitor - born Needham Market
RG12; Piece: 1463; Folio 18; Page 5;
Barking.
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1891
Further down the same page as Louise, so piece and folio numbers are the same. The ennumerator has written :-
CHAPMAN
John - 33 - farm labourer - born Barking
Eliza - 41 - born Willisham
Edward J. - 14 - born Willisham
Ellen - 10 - born Willisham
EMMA - 8 - born Needham Market
John - 6 - born Needham Market
Kate - 4 - born Barking
Charles - 3 - born Barking
George W. - 2 - born Barking
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John Chaplins wife Eliza had either been married before or had children born when she was unmarried.
1881
CHAPLIN
John - 23 - ag lab - born - Needham Market
Eliza - 27 - born Willisham
Edward GRIMWOOD - son - 7 - born Willisham
Ada GRIMWOOD - daug - 3 - born Willisham
Ellen CHAPLIN - 4 months - born Willisham
RG11; Piece: 1862; Folio: 28; Page: 20
Barking
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Marriage
John CHAPLIN
Eliza GRIMWOOD
1880
Sep qtr.
Bosmere
4a
945
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1871 - a possible
Eliza GREENWADE - 17 - general servant - born Willisham
RG10; Piece: 1745; Folio: 56; Page: 18
Needham Market
The image looks more like Grimwade.
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1861
GRIMWOOD
Joseph - 33 - bricklayer
Mary Ann - 26
ELIZA - 7
Charles - 5
John - 4
Ellen - 2
Walter - 6 months
all born in Willisham
RG9; Piece: 1157; Folio: 99; Page: 20
Willisham
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