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Darcy
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Dorset Place Name - Help!
« on: Tuesday 12 September 06 03:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi All, Grin

Has anyone ever heard of Lobsile Dorset? This is the place of birth given by my 3rd great grandfather on the 1861 census. The writing is quite clear.

The place of birth is partly scribbled over on the 1851 but definitely starts with "Lobs...." - but the county is given as Hants.

In 1841 he's in Wiltshire and recorded as "born in the county" Roll Eyes

He's gone by 1871............. Got any idea where this place might be?

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cheryle.f
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 15:16 UTC (UK) »

 Undecided Hi Darcy....you know sometimes when something seems really far fetched but because of this hobby and the twists and turns you have to work round even the impossible seems logical......well......I tried every combination of ?ob?Huh? with and without the L at the beginning and i live in Dorset and oringinally in Hants. I couldnt come up with anything except this real, real longshot which would be Ibsley in Ringwood Hants . Just further along the main road from Ringwood Hampshire, within the hour,  it becomes Wiltshire.I just wondered if the person writing the certificate was just writing from sound rather than knowing the spelling. Sorry it is the only thing that i could come up with Cry


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mussellwhite, musselwhite,curtis, grey or gray,bundy,moody, lawrence  and now Webb   in wiltshire,hampshire and dorset.
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 15:22 UTC (UK) »

Can you scan in that part of the document so we can all have a look? Ot tell us more about the records so we can look it up?

meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:06 UTC (UK) »

It couldn't be Ludgershall could it? It's right on the border of Hants and Wilts near Andover. It doesn't explain the Dorset bit, but with no teeth and a couple of pints of 6X, it might sound like Lobsile.
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:11 UTC (UK) »

 Grin \ i like your way of thinking Fred and dont forget about the bit of straw that you would be chewing as well hanging from your mouth...........cheryle Roll Eyes
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:13 UTC (UK) »

Shoorly Fred, Lug'shll dushn't shound like Loshile? Not even after a few pints of Wadsworths 6X?

Or, just maybe, you could be right.(Ah, the benefit of a mis-spent youth drinking 6X!)

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:27 UTC (UK) »

 the bit of straw that you would be chewing as well hanging from your mouth...........cheryle Roll Eyes

So what's wrong with having a bit of straw hanging from your mouth? Straw and Wadworth's 6X sounds like a normal night round here;) Wink
And Meles, I know it's not THAT likely but I've been going through every place within a 10 mile radius and can't think of anywhere likely round here.
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:45 UTC (UK) »

 Grin Grin Grin This isnt going to help Darcy......the picture of a smock, wellies,a pint of Wadsworth and a piece of hanging straw is coming together nicely but....she's in Austrailia.LOL. I'm so glad your cant hear my Dorset accent Darcy you may think we were taking the micky Grin but seriously can you give the x3 grandfathers name so we can have a look at the census and see if anyone else on the surrounding pages has the same place of birth written. It may turn up something Huh


very best wishes and i am quite jealous your there and i'm here Cry

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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:50 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Cheryle for getting us back on track and away from Wadsworths beer...mmm beer.... Wink

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:52 UTC (UK) »

The 1851 entry looks like Lubsill (which doesn't help much).
The ancestor appears to be James Green bc 1777, indexed as James Groen in 1851.
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cheryle.f
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 19:55 UTC (UK) »

 Smiley WOW Richard  how did you do that Undecided....were you privy to some earlier information....

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mussellwhite, musselwhite,curtis, grey or gray,bundy,moody, lawrence  and now Webb   in wiltshire,hampshire and dorset.
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 20:00 UTC (UK) »

Indeed -  looked up 1851 Greon (had to redeem myself for earlier distractions) with no success.

Would be very happy to look at original if I could find it.

meles
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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk
Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
Harrison: London; Pollock
Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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rjknott
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 20:24 UTC (UK) »

Found the 1861 entry via Lobsile (unsurprisingly the only person born there!) and the 1851 entry (after some difficulty) - it's HO107/1846/362 - via Britford where they were living in 1841 and 1861.
Still didn't help with the birhplace though.
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Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
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cheryle.f
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 20:48 UTC (UK) »

 Cry No i agree. That means that we are actually here in Dorset... Freds up the road in the new forest and between us we've been no help at all. LOL. I have a feeling that James seemed to name that place very particularly. The spelling in the 61 is very precise and the enumerator has just made abit of a scruffy entry in the 51 but you can see it is the same place. I have a feeling that as James was born in 1777 we are going to find out sometime soon that this was actually a real village and through time just had its name changed. Maybe James never had cause to go to that area again and never knew.

       sorry couldnt be anymore help Darcy......cheryle
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mussellwhite, musselwhite,curtis, grey or gray,bundy,moody, lawrence  and now Webb   in wiltshire,hampshire and dorset.
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Re: Dorset Place Name - Help!
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 21:16 UTC (UK) »

I've also tried variants of Lob's Hill without success.
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,Bird,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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