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Topic: Dorset Place Name - Help! (Read 1527 times)
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stockman fred
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Thinking seriously about this, I'm trying to remember where I've seen a "Lobshill". I'm sure it rings a bell but it may just be a farm name. I'll have a look on the 1st edition OS maps - it's surprising how names changed or were mis- recorded. Ibsley, for instance, is "Ibbesley" on the old map.
Fred
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stockman fred
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Found it, I reckon and no wonder it rang a bell- it's only a few miles away- 2 miles West of Fordingbridge alongside Crendle Common. On the 1st edition OS map, it looks like "Lobsell" next to a farm.
Fred
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stockman fred
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I've just checked it out on the modern map and it is now called "Lopshill" 3kms East of Cranborne at SU 090138.
Fred
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rjknott
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Yes, well done.
I'd looked at all the places on the Dorset/Wiltshire/Hants border and found nothing.
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stockman fred
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It seems to be right on the boundary where the three counties meet. There is some useful info on the local pottery industry around Crendell Common in Jo Draper's book "Dorset Country Pottery"
Fred
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Darcy
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Hi everyone, 
you people are just wonderful Thanks to all of you and especially Fred.
I was having a laugh at all your comments. I was very proud when I found James was from Dorset - my first rellie from there. I have a map of England and I highlight all the counties where I find a relative. I only have a few counties to go and I've covered the lot. A band of wanderers were my lot!
I'm glad you found James as Greon! I don't know what it is with my rellies but they all seem to give weird places of birth. I have a great grandmother from Whaplode Drove Linconshire and it took ages to be sure I had the right person. I got - Dover Wapple, Narpley, Lincoln City and Lancashire.
I'm thrilled to bits. I tried for ages to find anything resembling the name but had no luck. Being an Aussie doesn't help much either! I knew if anyone could find it RootsChat was the place to ask.
You can all have a Wadsworth on me. Many many thanks for all you help and for giving me a laugh too.
Kind Regards
Darcy 
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire. Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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stockman fred
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Don't they say "Nothing breeds success like six-x"? 
I'm glad we found the right one, I think there would have been lots of midnight oil burned in Dorset otherwise. 
On a serious note, I should have explained the reference to the Pottery industry.
The area around Lobsell in E Dorset/W Hants and down as far as Verwood was very poor heathland. It was thinly populated as it could not support an agricultural population. As a result, various local industries developed including hurdle making, and more famously, pottery making. The small holders and potters made a distinctive style of folk pottery which they hawked around the markets across the region. You can pick up sherds in the fields after ploughing and sometimes find old pits filled with broken pots. The industry lasted from the 13th cent. until the early 1900s when factories killed the trade. The Verwood and District Potteries Trust are the local experts on the industry and their website can be seen at http://www.verwoodpotteries.co.uk if its of interest.
Fred
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Darcy
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Hi Fred,
thanks very much for that link and the information on the area. I love finding out about the places where my ancestors lived. It's all so interesting. I have managed to find Lopshill on the map and printed it out.
Can I pick your brains another time? Would you have any idea what registration district Lobshill would have come under in the early days? I've been looking at the IGI but as it's on the border of three counties I'm totally confused. Don't go to a lot of trouble but I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have.
Regards
Darcy
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire. Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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stockman fred
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Hi again, I've had a close look at the map on www.old-maps.uk . They give the modern spelling of Lops Hill on the 1891 whereas the earlier 1" reprint gives "Lobsell".
It looks as if it now lies just inside the Hampshire boundary which I believe puts it in the Parish of Damerham in 1777. If he was born a few yards away in Dorset, then It might be worth trying Cranborne Parish.
(Some parish boundaries in the area were altered in 1887 and the Counties were adjusted in the 1970s)
While it was raining this evening, I had a look in our town library and I noticed they have microfiches of the Damerham registers for the period so I might have a check on him when I get a minute. I hope that's of help,
Fred
Slightly amended- re the county boundaries!
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stockman fred
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I just realised looking at the map that Damerham was a part of Wiltshire in 1777. It appears that the parish was given to Hampshire in the 1890s but it means that Mr Green was born in Wiltshire.
Aargh!! Fred
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Darcy
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Hi Fred,
sorry for the delay in answering you. I have been away for a few days.
Mr Green is giving me a headache. It was very inconsiderate of him to be born on the border of 3 counties and totally confuse me.
I really do appreciate your efforts to help as it gives me some idea of where to look. You never know - one of these days I might get lucky.
Darcy
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire. Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MarionH
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Just a thought but if we are looking at Wiltshire - close to the border of Dorset - have you considered Laverstock??
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Darcy
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Hi MarionH, ,
thanks for your suggestion. I was completely stumped on this one as regards the registration district - but it looks like Wiltshire was the County at the time of James' birth.
A very kind RootsChatter has just offered to have a look at the Parish Registers for me - so I might get lucky.
Kind Regards
Darcy
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Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire. Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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