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DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« on: Tuesday 12 September 06 10:26 UTC (UK) »

looking for info on deeks and bareham family trees of clare,suffolk and surrounding areas race .

mystery!!!  mygrgr grandmother, julia ann bareham( 1854) was of mixed race ,she married george deeks, i believe her grandmother to be dorcas bareham( nee jarmin)c 1770.do you think dorcas may have been a slave?any one got any info on black slavery in suffolk??

there is a a  family saying " all the deeks are nuts because they come from brazil"  i think its because they are decended from the bareham etc.

thanks familytrees
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nelson of prescot and camberwell-london,
fenton of  east end london
daily of cork ireland/ east end london
deeks of clare -suffolk.
bareham of clare -suffolk.
boole of mansfield nottinghamshire
slack of mansfield-nottinghamshire
truelove of mansfield- nottinghamshire
nicholson of lincolnshire and nottingham
roby of nottingham
wilson of bridgham thetford norfolk.
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Re: deeks and bareham family" nuts from brazil"
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 11:38 UTC (UK) »

I am curious, can you tell us what evidence you have that Julia was of mixed race.


I totally agree with you about the Deeks, my mother in law was one and knowing her family they are totally nuts (in a very nice way)

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Re: deeks and bareham family" nuts from brazil"
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 12:19 UTC (UK) »

hi

thanks  for your reply

i have a photo of julia taken in 1921  aged aprox 67 she looks like a native brazilian indian so iam guessing this is where the" nuts" come from plus on the 1841 census the lady i think is her grandmother was not born in england  and she was called "dorcas" which can often be a black name.

thanks familytrees

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nelson of prescot and camberwell-london,
fenton of  east end london
daily of cork ireland/ east end london
deeks of clare -suffolk.
bareham of clare -suffolk.
boole of mansfield nottinghamshire
slack of mansfield-nottinghamshire
truelove of mansfield- nottinghamshire
nicholson of lincolnshire and nottingham
roby of nottingham
wilson of bridgham thetford norfolk.
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 14:44 UTC (UK) »

I too am curious as to your chain of thinking because of a name!
Dorcas was a common name in the 19 century: I have read of churches having 'Dorcas Societies' where members collected linen and made clothing for distribution amongst poorer people in the parish. Named after Dorcas in the Bible who was 'full of good works'!
I believe it was either last year or 2004 that Ipswich Record Office held a display of information from parish records where the record identified a person as being black. It may be worth giving them a ring 01473 584541. Good luck in your searching.
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PENDAL & variants: Suffolk; Bardwell, Tannington, Dennington & Worlingworth
ELLINOR: Suffolk; Redgrave/ Gislingham.
GRAYSTON: Suffolk; Ipswich.
GIRLING: Suffolk; Stradbroke/Ipswich
HAWES: Suffolk; Harkstead/Holbrook/Capel St Mary/Ipswich
BECK: Co Durham; Chopwell & Northumberland; Newcastle upon Tyne.
MILLER: Cumberland; Mawbray/Hayrigg/ Silloth.
FAIRLAM: Co Durham; Allendale Cottages, Low Westwood, Milkwell Burn.
WESTGARTH: Co Durham; Bishop Auckland
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 14:50 UTC (UK) »

As far as I can see on the 1841 census Dorcas Bareham  in Clare was born out of the COUNTY, not COUNTRY

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I can tell you that there have been several Dorcas Jarmins(spell var.) through the ages in Glemsford as I have one myself but she was born earlier than yours.

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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 14:59 UTC (UK) »

thanks for everyones help
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nelson of prescot and camberwell-london,
fenton of  east end london
daily of cork ireland/ east end london
deeks of clare -suffolk.
bareham of clare -suffolk.
boole of mansfield nottinghamshire
slack of mansfield-nottinghamshire
truelove of mansfield- nottinghamshire
nicholson of lincolnshire and nottingham
roby of nottingham
wilson of bridgham thetford norfolk.
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 September 07 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi, quite probably a (very) long shot but if you look at the foxearth site about the pentlow riots in1772 http://www.foxearth.org.uk/blog/2005/01/pentlow-riot.html  a Thomas  Deeks was involved. I've been talking to an Ottley who has a record of Susannah Ottley being transported to Christopher Island (now St Kitts) along with several other prisoners, names of whom she is digging out for me. If Thomas was one of them, and married in the carribean and returned later, that may be your source (none of the four were named in the lists of executions for the period).

Personally I'm chasing Samuel Allen, possibly  another son of my direct Issac Allen (1730-71).
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 August 09 20:08 UTC (UK) »

My wife's grandfather was William Walter Deeks who  left Clare, Suffolk to live in Mansfield, Notts in the early 1900's, he married Selina Revill.
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 August 09 20:11 UTC (UK) »

Its probably no longer possible to 'view again' ... but the WDYTYA programme about Barbara Windsor covered a lot of Deeks history ... she was one ... and if anyone is nutty, its 'our' Barbara !   She was also distantly linked to John Constable, the artist ...
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C'wall/Devon/CANADA (The Cariboo, B.C.): Pomeroy
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 August 09 19:43 UTC (UK) »

James
William Walter Deeks was born in 1891 and his parents were George Deeks and Julia Bareham
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 November 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »

Dorcas Jarmin bp. 9.5.1767 in Glemsford, daughter of Thomas Jarmin and Ann Braybrook. Thomas Jarmin bp.4.8.1734 Glemsford son of Thomas Jarmin and Margaret Wordley d. 1794 Glemsford m. 16.5.1750 Lamarsh, Essex Ann Braybrook.
The Wordley line continues further backwards. I do not have any evidence of Dorcas Jarmin being a slave, or even not white.
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Re: deeks and bareham family" nuts from brazil"
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 November 09 19:47 UTC (UK) »

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I totally agree with you about the Deeks, my mother in law was one and knowing her family they are totally nuts (in a very nice way)


Remember that Barbara Windsor (of the Carry On films and 'Stenders') was a Deeks ... so yes, definitely nutty !
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C'wall/Devon/CANADA (The Cariboo, B.C.): Pomeroy
Som'set: Clark(e)
Durham: Law
London: Poplett
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Re: DEEKS & BAREHAM Familes
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 November 09 21:39 UTC (UK) »


   
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i have a photo of julia taken in 1921  aged aprox 67 she looks like a native brazilian indian 


Do remember that the wives of ordinary Agricultural Labourers also helped in the fields, in all weathers and all seasons.  It is not unusual to see women with dark (tanned) weatherbeaten faces from this time - no Dove cream for them  Grin

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SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
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