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Sylviaann
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You have to do the work
« on: Saturday 06 November 04 13:21 GMT (UK) »

Can anyone find the Birth of John Smith for me.  I can't find it anywhere on the computer.  I know he was born about 1867 but I don't know where.  I thought everything was on the internet.  Also can someone look up the census.

Well I thought I'd try!!

When I started family history I went to night classes to learn how to do it.  I read all the books in my library and bought a "How to" book.  I went to the local LDS centre every week for five years after work.  We only had two hours per session.  How much time was spent winding and rewinding the films I do not know.  But it was a pleasure even if we did get aching arms.  I bought every certificate.  How can you manage without?  I bought books and indexes.  I looked at all the census films.  Then it was the Parish Registers.  What a thrill that was even if we found the relative in the last five minutes of looking.  We found many siblings.

I wish I could have gone to a record office but they were all too far away.

I joined the family history societies for each region where my family lived (4) and subscribed to a magazine.

Of course this was all before the internet.  I have about 100 favourites for family history, all gleaned from sites like this or magazines.

Todays searchers seem to think it is easy and that they don't have to spend any money. 

Sorry to moan but don't people try to learn any more?

Sylviaann
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Re: You have to do the work
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 November 04 13:48 GMT (UK) »

Sylviaann

I agree - it's not as easy as it's cracked up to be!   I have to admit I have not been as thorough as you in my endeavours to 'do it right', but I never expected to be able to turn the computer on one morning and have a family tree going back to William the Conquerer by tea time!

Computers are wonderful things - but the younger generation would benefit from reading a few books as well, and not just on the subject of genealogy.   

As for the expense involved there is definitely a misconception that family history is a nice little hobby which can be enjoyed without stirring from your desk and it doesn't cost a bean!   As my father continually told me..........you only get what you pay for!

Jill
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Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 November 04 13:50 GMT (UK) »

Exactly !


 I have just spent the  whole week-end - for the friend of a friend - and produced as much information as I could (from internet info. plus my own CD's, records, booklets, etc. etc.)

 Managed to get a fairly good tree....going back two more generations than they knew about ........ even gave BMD cert. refs. for her to send for certificates & explained how we could get back further, with that information ....offered to send for them, at cost  (£7) ...... and the reaction was incredible !


Well...... £7 ? ..........  I'll think about it !   In the meantime, do you think you could just do my husbands !

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Re: You have to do the work
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 November 04 13:54 GMT (UK) »

................and your answer Kathy?

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Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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Re: You have to do the work
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 November 04 14:00 GMT (UK) »



  I am very busy at the moment  !....... actually !   But what I was thinking .... I couldn't possibly print here !

  Trouble is - I love it so much, I'll probably end up doing it !


 

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Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 November 04 22:30 GMT (UK) »

Thats what I love about Rootschat - total beginners and 'old hands' -
It never ceases to amaze me the wealth of knowledge hidden in the Rootschat pages..and the numbers of folk willing to help.

I'm sure it does sometimes seem tedious to those of you who have been researching for years to see the same old questions trotted out but we all have to begin somewhere and for most folk the computor and the internet is it.

When I started this obsession the first place I went to look for information on how to begin, where to look, how to look and even how to turn the b****** computor on was the Library ! But perhaps thats because I am of 'that generation' who were taught that that was where to go if you needed to find an answer !

I don't beleive it's too long before anyone who is serious about researching their family history realises that sooner or later it's going to cost money - my first tip would be, if you think it's going to be free or easy give up now !
Those of us starting out now do certainly have an easier task but sooner or later you come to realise it's not all there at the click of a mouse... Sad

Suey



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« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 November 04 01:38 GMT (UK) »

One of the nicest things about this site is not only the help given to newbies, but also the manner in which it is given. One other site I use has many folk who are quite condescending and at times very rude when a question doesn't contain the needed facts for research.

At any age, we have to "learn to learn" and so it is with any new area of interest.  Although our interest costs money, we don't all have the same enthusiasm nor the ability to spend same. As my search has progressed, so have my costs and I can't always afford to get the certificates I would like to have. Starting in Oz all our BDM indexes contain much more information than the England/Wales Index, so there is not always a need to buy the certificate but (British) Australia only started in 1788 & many of our families arrived here in the 19th and 20th centuries so English records are needed. I do get horrified at spending money on certificates that may not even be the ones I want!

Most of my family members are not (yet) addicted genealogists. They profess an interest in all my findings, but are not prepared to spend any money to follow anything through. This doesn't stop my addiction - My parents (via the LDS) did much research some years ago, when I wasn't very interested - I now appreciate every piece of information they found and the certificates they bought! - hopefully those that come after me will have the same thoughts about my research.

I also appreciate the lookups, advice, information and friendship that is part of rootschat - Long may it be here.

Trish



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« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 November 04 05:30 GMT (UK) »

Can anyone find the Birth of John Smith for me.  I can't find it anywhere on the computer.  I know he was born about 1867 but I don't know where.  I thought everything was on the internet.  Also can someone look up the census.

Well I thought I'd try!!

When I started family history I went to night classes to learn how to do it.  I read all the books in my library and bought a "How to" book.  I went to the local LDS centre every week for five years after work.  We only had two hours per session.  How much time was spent winding and rewinding the films I do not know.  But it was a pleasure even if we did get aching arms.  I bought every certificate.  How can you manage without?  I bought books and indexes.  I looked at all the census films.  Then it was the Parish Registers.  What a thrill that was even if we found the relative in the last five minutes of looking.  We found many siblings.

I wish I could have gone to a record office but they were all too far away.

I joined the family history societies for each region where my family lived (4) and subscribed to a magazine.

Of course this was all before the internet.  I have about 100 favourites for family history, all gleaned from sites like this or magazines.

Todays searchers seem to think it is easy and that they don't have to spend any money. 

Sorry to moan but don't people try to learn any more?

Sylviaann

That does seem a  little bit harsh to me. Many people including myself haven't the luxury of being in the Uk to run around the record offices. And ploughing through the Parish records etc

I do appreciate what you are saying (  people thinking they can go ... boom a family tree just like that, and not spending out for anything, not realising that you can't just trace a tree in a two minutes.. it takes years  of frustations ). But speaking as someone who is not in the UK, and needs the internet for many things, it is not any easier, it is very hard to trace people from  the other side of the world.

I have written countless letters to record offices and churches , paid god knows how much for sites including  1837, Ancestry com, British origins, FHS pay site , etc etc.. paid for countless of certs to fit the puzzle together, paid for  many census CD's  and marriage Cd's etc. I'm currently awaiting some more info which I had to write, and pay,  to the record office for

It is hard anyway which way. It's not easy, and I don't mind helping out people who have no info on certain areas that I
 have.
I wish I had that help myself when I first started. And I'm learning lots and lots of things from  this site.

This is why rootschat is really a godsend, a lot of people willing to help  and advise  others if they can.

I do not think it is any easier now than it was then to actually get it all together. It  just makes things a little bit easier with  the help you get along the way. And the internet is great tool for providing some information.

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Graham -Derry,Ballymoney,Carrickfergus & Ballymena
White-Broughshane
Boyd-Ballymoney
Roberts,Lloyd, Hopkin, Davies Carmarthenshire
Parker Oystermouth/Mumbles.
Carlsen (also called Carlson & Karlson )B in Former Russia (Finland) & Swansea S.Wales.
Butler family Llangyfelach (Clydach & Ynystawe)
Quarman Bitton & S.Wales

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