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mcrem
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1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« on: Sunday 17 September 06 16:18 UTC (UK) »
Could anyone do a lookup in the 1851 and/or 1861 census for a John Cremonini, b.1816. In the 1841 census he is shown at Drainie.
Any information would be appreciated.
Mike
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 December 06 22:36 UTC (UK) »
hi mike i have had a good look around and can find nothing for john, on the 1841 census his occupation is given as M.S could this be military soldier?
hence the reason i cannot find him?
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 06 15:30 UTC (UK) »
Thanks joebhoy - I have now been able to view the original handwritten 1841 census return and I am now quite convinced that the surname was not 'cremonini'. Can't explain why it was indexed as such though.
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Mike
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 December 06 20:21 UTC (UK) »
hi mike, if it was not cremonini, what do you think it was and i will see if i can find him in the 1851?

Joe
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 December 06 13:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi Joebhoy
Thanks for your interest and offer of help. My best guess at the name is Cumming but as always with unclear Victorian handwriting the more I look at it the more confusing it looks.
I have attached a jpg - what do you think.
Mike

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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 December 06 17:06 UTC (UK) »
hi mike i am about to look in the 1851 and 61 for you, can you give me a little more info? was he married? any children?

Joe
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 December 06 15:45 UTC (UK) »
Cumming   John   Head   Mar   36      Agricultural Labourer   Cromdale - INV   15   Balnain
Cumming   Elspet   Wife   Mar      28      Glenlivet - BAN      Balnain
Cumming   Betsy   Dau   U      7   Scholar   Tullynessie - ABD      Balnain
Cumming   William   Son   U   6      Scholar   Mortlach - BAN      Balnain
Cumming   Ann   Dau   U      3      Cromdale - INV      Balnain
Hi Joe,
Could this be the John you are looking for? This is taken from 1851, so the age matches.
Mike sorry if I jumped in! I saw the post and was bored so I had a wee look.
Susan.
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 December 06 17:22 UTC (UK) »
hi Susan, Hi Joe
I really do appreciate the time you have both taken but I think this query is now 'dead'.
When the 1841 census for Scotland first became available on Ancestry I was very interested to find John Cremonini in the index, hence my first post. I subsequently obtained a copy of the original handwritten return and could see immediately that the surname had been mis-indexed.
Thanks again for your help.
Mike Cremonini
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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 December 06 17:39 UTC (UK) »
hi mike, does this mean you have not got roots in moray? is there anything else you need help with?


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Re: 1851/61 census lookup - Moray
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 December 06 18:11 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: joebhoy on Thursday 07 December 06 22:36 UTC (UK)
on the 1841 census his occupation is given as M.S could this be military soldier?

In the 1841 census 'M. S.' stands for 'Male Servant'.
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