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Re: Updating and Search Engines
« Reply #30 on: Monday 18 September 06 15:26 BST (UK) »

It would appear that the "re-visit policy" of the differing search engines is determined by them to some mathematical formulae  ....  not a lot the owner/designer of the site can do

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« Reply #31 on: Monday 18 September 06 15:35 BST (UK) »

Oh I do like the 'deep invisible web' and 'politeness policy' - makes them sound almost human  Smiley

Thanks for the link. Really, it's not worth worrying too much then. My hit rate is quite high at the moment, so.........................

We'll see what the future holds.

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 18 September 06 16:34 BST (UK) »

Whats wrong with a small "site updated on xyz date" at the bottom of the home page?

I do this on my website (see my siggy for link) along aside the copyright stuff, all at the bottom, and I dont think it looks funny or out of place.

Its just  a few very small typed lines. Most people never scroll down far enough to see it anyway.   Grin

Alternatively there is nothing wrong with a "what's new" or "stop press" page either. Smiley

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« Reply #33 on: Monday 18 September 06 19:19 BST (UK) »

Nothing wrong at all BD  Wink 

It's how the the web crawlers identify updates that's the issue.

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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 21 September 06 21:49 BST (UK) »

Just checked my latest browser stats for website. In the last week, the % using each of the following browsers:

IE6 83%
Opera 9.01 8%
FF 1.5.0 5%
IE7 2%
Opera 7.54 1%
FF 1.5 1%

In previous weeks I know I've had Apple and Netscape.

Query - what does AOL use - I've got that somewhere and I did test before I put it up for the first time.

Another variable is monitor resolution. Luckily I have 1280 x 1024 and 1024 x 768 - I gave an old 15 ins away! Best to centre in browser, else you get that right hand blank space. I changed over a couple of weeks ago.

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I think your quick sample of browsers and screen resolutions are pretty representative.  I've been using Google Analytics for over 3 months now, and I drew off a number of stats that you and others might find helpful in terms of the characteristics of visitors etc, to inform website design. 

Here goes (data based on 878 visitors):

Operating System      
            
Windows   96.81%
Macintosh  2.62%
Linux         0.46%
(unknown) 0.11%
   
Browser

Internet Explorer       84.17%
Firefox                      12.19%
Safari                          2.05%
Opera                          0.80%
Netscape                     0.68%
SonyEricssonZ530i [!]  0.11%

Screen resolution
               
1024x768   54.21%
800x600     17.54%
1152x864   10.25%
1280x1024  9.45%
1280x800    3.64%
1280x768    0.80%
640x480      0.57%
1280x960    0.57%
1920x1200   0.57%
1024x640     0.46%
1440x900     0.34%
1400x1050   0.34%
1680x1050   0.34%
1280x854     0.23%
1600x1200   0.23%
1344x840     0.11%
176x220       0.11%
1280x720     0.11%
656x496       0.11%

(Never knew there were so many combinations of screen resolutions)

Screen colours

32-bit   82.46%
16-bit   14.81%
24-bit    2.16%
8-bit      0.57%

Connection "Speed"
         
Cable/DSL    75.74%
Dialup          15.26%
Unknown      5.01%
Corporate     3.99%

(Interesting that at least 4% of my visitors are doing it on the firm's time!)

Referrals (Top 15 only!)      
            
(direct)[(none)]                                    21.3%
google[organic]                                    20.8%
rootschat.com[referral]                         17.5%
yahoo[organic]                                       9.6%
kindredtrails.com[referral]                      4.7%
my2.statcounter.com[referral]                4%
ask[organic]                                            3.6%
msn[organic]                                           3.2%
british-genealogy.com[referral]               2.3%
ukgid.com[referral]                                  1.8%
mandywillard.co.uk[referral]                    1.4%
cyndislist.com[referral]                             1.25%
a*cestryaid.co.uk[referral]                       0.8%
forum.yourfamilytreemag.co.uk[referral]  0.7%
etherington.rootschat.net[referral]          0.7%

NB1 - These are percentage of visitors, not percentage of pageloads

NB2 - I assume "organic" means search engine-sourced

Country of origin (Top 10 only!)
United Kingdom          63.1%
United States             18.1%
Australia                       8.8%
Canada                        2.4%
(not set)                       2%
Satellite Provider          0.8%
France                          0.8%
New Zealand                0.8%
Spain                            0.5%
South Africa                  0.5%


For those of you who think I am sad (a poll would probably show at least 95%!) to collect and post this, I can assure you I don't aim to make a habit of it!  Perhaps next time will be in June 2007 on the first anniversary of my Googleanalytics account!

Anyway, hope they are of interest.

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Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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Re: Updating and Search Engines
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 21 September 06 21:55 BST (UK) »


Thanks for that Julian - interesting - the referrals particularly - not sure what I would do with the stats but.........


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« Reply #36 on: Thursday 21 September 06 21:56 BST (UK) »

Very sad interesting Julian. It's catching mind  Wink

Thanks for that

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« Reply #37 on: Thursday 21 September 06 22:35 BST (UK) »

Query - what does AOL use - I've got that somewhere and I did test before I put it up for the first time.

AOL generally use (or they did the last time I looked) a variant of IE.

Forgot about this query - my last AOL visitor was using IE 6.

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Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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« Reply #38 on: Friday 22 September 06 08:29 BST (UK) »

Thanks Julian

Makes very interesting reading.  Sad to see IE is still coming top!   Wink

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« Reply #39 on: Friday 22 September 06 08:53 BST (UK) »

Makes very interesting reading. Sad to see IE is still coming top!

Yes, but of my visitors, almost 15% of people using a Windows operating system have opted to use an alternative browser in Firefox, rather than the IE package which is the default for Windows.  Based on my data, that's quite a snub for Microsoft and IE. 

Will have to see what happens when IE7 is formally launched (I'm using the Beta version at the moment - because I want to make a decision whether to switch to Firefox, and there's no point if IE claws back some brownie points as a result of the new version; the jury here is still out).

If I'd draw any conclusions from all this, at minimum, test your website for IE and Firefox, at a resolution of 800 x 600 minimum, with 16 bit colours.  And for Mac users too!  Also have to remember that a significant minority still use Dial-up rather than ADSL.

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Essex - Carter, Danns, Mason, Middleditch, Pond, Poole, Rose, Sorrill, Surry, Theobold
Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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« Reply #40 on: Friday 22 September 06 08:55 BST (UK) »

Well going by that, I'm already doing all of that except for the Mac bit!!!!

For once I've got something right Undecided

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« Reply #41 on: Friday 22 September 06 09:01 BST (UK) »

I think I'm having a deja vu moment - wasn't all this covered in the earlier pages of this thread  Roll Eyes

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