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knightstemplar
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Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« on: Monday 18 September 06 15:05 UTC (UK) »

Does any one know where this hotel is? Huh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/wharncliffe/UnknownHotel.jpg

It was taken in 1912 and was first thought to be Sheffield,  see

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125480
(you might need to be a member to look at this one though)

Any suggestions welcome.  It says hotel over the door and I understand is says Tetley on the light.  G and R we think to be commemorating some King George V event,  not sure which,  but where is it?  On the back of the photo it says Charles Buxton Sheffield.

Its driving us mad.   Come and have a look what sheffieldforum have to say if you have a few minutes.  Warning we are up to 12 pages already.

Sue Wink
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dave the tyke
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 September 06 21:57 UTC (UK) »

No idea where the hotel is but the crown in the window above the door is definitely a 'Queens' crown - Victoria perhaps.
The hotel reminds me of the old 'station' hotels which were situated near the railway stations in most of the major northern towns. There is one next to the station in York that looked very much like yours.
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 October 06 16:22 UTC (UK) »

Aren't the letters G and R (for George V  - 1910-1936) ?
If we really are stuck, would it be worth popping a copy of the photo in the post to Tetley's (the brewer) and see if they recognise it? Their web page is 'under construction'  but their snail mail is - Tetley’s Brewery Wharf
The Waterfront, Leeds LS1 1QG - England, UK
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 19:56 UTC (UK) »

It probably is more likely a "C" and a "B" as I see no charcter markings to make it an upper-case G...and isn't there a glow refecting from the bottom of the letter on the right which might mean there is a bottom stroke on the letter...a "B"...

Now this is a very low res file...so if you could please scan & enlarge just the right side of the photo....I could adjust the gamma on it to be sure, but as it is, it's just too pixelated...

You can also email me a good scan as I can accept several meg by email...
and then I'll post and call the rootschat experts in here....I'll p.m. my email address to you...
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 20:05 UTC (UK) »

I adjusted the gamma a bit and seems to be a shadow from the right, again suggesting a "B"...but as I say I can't see the original...and maybe it is an "R" clear as day...
Those lovely bay windows should give it away for someone to recognise it, though! J.J.

( partial photo only...see above url for complete)


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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 20:06 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for your reply unfortunately it came from another site.  I am just passing it on to as many people as possable.  It does come from a post card size photo.

see [url]http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125480[/url] for more info.

You need to be a member to post a reply though. Or  I can pass a message on.

Sue
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 20:12 UTC (UK) »

It definately is a G and R as I have seen it on a photo of another pub of the same date.  They must have had a problem making it, with the middle to the G cut off a bit short.

Thanks
Sue
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I've just spent an enjoyable half hour reading the thread on Sheffield Forum ... come on Rootschatters - let's see if we can sort this one out!  Grin

For my money, the letters are 'C' and 'R'  (the two circles in a 'B' would, I think, be of more equal weight, but I think this shows a smaller circle for the top, and I'm not convinced the 'circle' on the bottom is a full one).

Like dave the tyke, I'm heading in the direction of a railway hotel.

This site suggests there was a Great Central Railway that connected Sheffield with  Manchester and Lincolnshire.

Could this, therefore, be a hotel for the Central Railway?

There's what looks like a shop on the left hand corner, and then an archway that looks awfully like it might be an entrance into a booking hall, with either posters or booking counters lit up inside.

Am I barking up a wild goose here?  Huh Grin

cheers

Paul



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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:12 UTC (UK) »

Here's an enlargement of the bit I think is the entrance to the booking hall...
what do you think?


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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:24 UTC (UK) »

Never thought of a railway...................always open to suggestions, can you make anything of the name plate above?

Sue
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:35 UTC (UK) »

Have a look at this.  It is the Silver Jubilee celebrations of George V in 1935 although they would have probably used the same display for his coronation???  This is on a pub in Sheffield aswell.

Sue


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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:45 UTC (UK) »

I know some of the discussion on the Sheffield Forum thread mentioned a sign for Tetley.   I've squinted and squinted (admittedly the definition of the pic is a little on the low side) but I can't see Tetley anywhere... Huh

As for the sign above the door, again, difficult to really see ... but I think it says 'HOTEL'.

This would add credence to the idea that it was a railway hotel, since it would distinguish the entrance to the hotel from the entrance to the station (guessing here!).

cheers

Paul



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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:49 UTC (UK) »

First letter visible looks like an R, though...

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 22:02 UTC (UK) »

Tetley is supposed to be on the light.  But I cant even see Hotel over the door...........
Sue
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 22:54 UTC (UK) »

Yes, 'Hotel' might be wishful thinking!

But I can't see Tetley - can you?  Huh
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