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Trying to get website working
« on: Monday 25 September 06 17:54 BST (UK) »

Got my free webspace opened up today and, having converted a Gedcom file using Gedmill, and succesfully tested the resulting website on my C drive, I then uploaded the contents of the Gedmill output folder to my webspace. What do I do now to get it all working ? If I connect to the website  http://www.shaunspage.rootschat.net/ I just get the " Page Cannot Be Found" error message.
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Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 -  Whitesmith
Grey  - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
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Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 September 06 18:10 BST (UK) »

You need to go to this link instead: http://shaunspage.rootschat.net/home.html

You could create a page that takes you from index.html to home.html.  When it searches for http://shaunspage.rootschat.net/ it tries to find an index.html file.  As Gedmill didn't produce one, you get an error.  Or of course, you could just link everyone to http://shaunspage.rootschat.net/home.html

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Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER
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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 September 06 19:34 BST (UK) »

Thanks Andrew - this html business is a new technology for me and I'm feeling a bit helpless !

Can someone please point me at advice on how to write an index file ?
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Bradbury - Derby/Nottingham
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Gale - Lymington/Rotherhithe 1780-1820's
Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 -  Whitesmith
Grey  - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
Kendrick - London - c.1775
Hollis - Northampton - 1774
Potter - Leicester - c.1775
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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 September 06 20:59 BST (UK) »

All you need to do (Ha!) is either change the name of your front page to "../index.html" or try putting a front entry page onto your site called ".../index.html" with a link to your "home" page.

There's plenty of help on here eg

Bob's tutorial for building websites:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,93490.0.html

The companion help thread in particular this one on building sites with GED programs:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,70811.msg289868.html#msg289868

If I was in your position I'd have a crack at having a frontispiece page  ".../index.html" which says on it "enter" with a link to your ".../home.html" page.  It doesn't have to be complex at all - just the web-site title, a picture (place or people) if you wish, and a big hyperlink on "Enter here" or similar.  [The danger of changing "home" to index" is that you then have to change all the other links in your pages pointing at "home" to "index".]

There's a link to a tutorial  on making a home page with Notepad here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,23923.0.html

You might find you can knick some code off someone else who has a similar entry style page - try looking at the list of Rootschat websites:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,23896.0.html

To look at the code on someone's site, just right click on a blank bit of the page and select "view source"; this will open a file in Notepad showing the HTML code.

Have ago, and if it doesn't work, seek advice on here.  There's plenty of supportive folk (who were all beginners once) who will help you out.

Good luck

JULIAN
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Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 October 06 15:31 BST (UK) »

Hi RetiringType,

I've uploaded an example index-htm file to the tutorial site
see http://tutorial.rootschat.net/example-index.htm

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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 October 06 16:57 BST (UK) »


Nice one Bob

JULIAN
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Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 October 06 21:04 BST (UK) »

Where should such a file sit - does it need to be in an index files folder on the website? Gedmill seems to have created an "index files" folder for me but I'm not sure what to put in it.
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Gale - Lymington/Rotherhithe 1780-1820's
Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 -  Whitesmith
Grey  - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
Kendrick - London - c.1775
Hollis - Northampton - 1774
Potter - Leicester - c.1775
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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 October 06 22:40 BST (UK) »

Where should such a file sit - does it need to be in an index files folder on the website? Gedmill seems to have created an "index files" folder for me but I'm not sure what to put in it.
Your index.html file needs to go in the main (top) directory in your Rootschat webspace.  The key thing is to get your link from your index page to go to the "home" page, so you do a hyperlink that says http://shaunspage.rootschat.net/home.html ie in code on the page you put

<a href="./home.html">My home page</a>


using Bob's example page.

Looking at your site as it stands (using the above link) it looks like you put all the generated files in the main dirctory of your Rootschat webspace - probably no need to put anything in sub-directories unless Gedmill has generated any output in sub-folders

I hope this is comprehensible!

JULIAN

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Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 00:06 BST (UK) »

Hi retiringtype,

Just thought I would but in here to say I was in your position not that long ago - and with Bob's help and others - I can upload a new page in seconds now!!  Grin Grin

It all looks so daunting - but just remember the first time you tried to drive a car - "put your left foot on the clutch pedal - put the gear stick into gear ........
Ohh I'm never going to remember to do everything in the correct order!!  Wink



Keep at it!! Cool Cool


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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 08:29 BST (UK) »

There are a series of pages that browsers look for as default pages. If you make a file and call it "index.html" and use the following for it:
Code:
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;url=home.html">
</head>
<body>
Redirecting...
</body>
</html>
Upload that into the root folder (main) of your web space and that will take care of everything for you. As it stands, if you omit the "home.html" from the end of your link we get a 404 which is the browser's way of saying "I can't find the file"

This small index file will automatically redirect for you so if GEDmill keeps making your site and insists on using home.html instead of index.html then you've nothing to worry about.
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Lincolnshire: CROPPER, WOODCOCK (Boston)
London: BARKER, DUGGIN, HARRIS, HINTON, HULBERT, WHITE
Wales: HARRIS, PRITCHARD (Pembrokeshire)
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 08:31 BST (UK) »

Thanks all for your help, advice and encouragement!
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Bale - Rotherhithe 1820's
Bradbury - Derby/Nottingham
Folder - Westmorland
Gale - Lymington/Rotherhithe 1780-1820's
Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 -  Whitesmith
Grey  - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
Kendrick - London - c.1775
Hollis - Northampton - 1774
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 October 06 11:35 BST (UK) »

Zeb,

I've now created that shortcut file and uploaded it and it seems to work perfectly. http://shaunspage.rootschat.net

Thanks again
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Bale - Rotherhithe 1820's
Bradbury - Derby/Nottingham
Folder - Westmorland
Gale - Lymington/Rotherhithe 1780-1820's
Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 -  Whitesmith
Grey  - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
Kendrick - London - c.1775
Hollis - Northampton - 1774
Potter - Leicester - c.1775
Cresswell - c 1780
Wingod - London
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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 October 06 17:25 BST (UK) »

Excellent

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Kent - Luetchford
Nottinghamshire - Baker, Dunks, Woodward, Price, Priestley
Suffolk - Rose
Surrey - Baker, Bedel, Bransden, Carter, Coleman, Gibbs, Luetchford, Quinton
Sussex - Gibbs, Langridge
Wiltshire - Brice, Rumble

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Re: Trying to get website working
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 October 06 17:49 BST (UK) »

Hi retiringtype

Sorry to put a dampner on your joy but it does not work - or at least when you click on Index of Names - nothing happens.

Your website is more than one page.  Where are the other pages or are you still working on that?

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 October 06 19:26 BST (UK) »

Downside,

Sorry about that I was rebuilding the site between 5.30 and 6.00 this evening - please try again !

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Angell - Norfolk/Cambridgeshire c.1780
Bale - Rotherhithe 1820's
Bradbury - Derby/Nottingham
Folder - Westmorland
Gale - Lymington/Rotherhithe 1780-1820's
Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 -  Whitesmith
Grey  - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
Kendrick - London - c.1775
Hollis - Northampton - 1774
Potter - Leicester - c.1775
Cresswell - c 1780
Wingod - London
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