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Jillie42
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I have been searching for info on my husbands' maternal family - the Snows.
On familysearch.org there are two marriages for William Ephraim Snow. Both to the same woman - Emma Lee, both in May 1822.
One is on the 2 May at Saint Dunstan, Stepney
the other is on the 16th May at St Leonards, Shoreditch.
Anyone have any ideas why this should be the case?
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Dave Francis
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Hi Jillie
Very strange! Both entries are controlled extractions, so the data should be fairly reliable (unlike some member submissions).
Double marriages sometimes take place if the bride and groom are of different faiths or denominations - ie they get married in an Anglican church and then later in a Catholic church. But these are both CofE churches!
I can only imagine that there was a technical reason. Was the first marriage legally flawed for some reason? If so, why have the second marriage in a different church?
It would be interesting to check the parish registers themselves. Hopefully the vicar made an explanatory note in the margin.
Dave
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Jillie42
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Thanks Dave,
I did wonder if william was possibly Jewish as he was a surgeon-apothacary at the Portugese and Spanish jews hospital in Stepney. I know there is a Snow family burial monument in Tower Hamlets cemetery but apparently that was a burial ground for all religious denominations.
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roma
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Hi Jillie
I would think that these were records of the banns being read especially as they are at different churches.
I had the same problems myself and this was the answer.
Regards
Roma
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jorose
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Although aren't banns usually read on the Sundays? These are both Thursdays. It is suspicious, the way they're exactly two weeks apart...
The Times, Thursday, May 13, 1819; pg. 3; Issue 10672; col F
On the 11th Inst, at Islington, by the Rev. Dr. Strachan, W.E. Snow, Esq, Surgeon, of Mile-End, to Priscilla, youngest daughter of Charles Derrick, Esq, of the former place.
But Priscilla's death and the second marriage I can't find mentioned in The Times.
Certainly there's something interesting happening with the family as both the one child of William and Priscilla and the subsequent children with Emma nearly all have two sets of christenings.
5 Sep 1824, at Bull Lane Independent, Stepney: Priscilla Derrick Elliot, the daughter from the first marriage, also William Lee Elliot and John Elliot, sons of Emma.
Then, 22 Aug 1828, also at Bull Lane, two more sons of Emma. 27 Oct 1829, one further son of Emma.
A gap, then 24 and 26 Feb 1835, at St. Dunstan's Stepney, all the children of William Ephraim and Emma are rechristened (a couple of them, presumably the youngest, not christened before) at Saint Dunstan's, Stepney.
He may have reverted to CoE later, but it seems quite likely he was a nonconformist at the time of his marriage(s), just marrying in the CoE for legal purposes. Maybe this has something to do with it?
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Jillie42
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Blimey. Josrose, where did you get all this information from? it's priceless!!! I didn't even know William had been married to two different women. Thought he'd been through two ceremonies with the SAME woman. YOU ARE A STAR!!!
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Just a combination of The Times archive and the IGI.  I always keep an eye out for entries on the IGI marked 'independent' because so many of my Cornish lot were nonconformists.
There's another marriage from this family in The Times:
The Times, Tuesday, Apr 11, 1854; pg. 10; Issue 21712; col B
On Saturday, the 8th inst, at St. Johns, Oxford-square, by the Rev. T. H. Siely, MA, rector of Lackford, near Bury, John Elliott Snow, Esq, surgeon, Walton, Suffolk, second son of W.E. Snow, Esq, of Tredegar-Square, to Elizabeth Jane, youngest daughter of Henry Wilkin,Esq, Connaught Terrace, Hyde Park
By searching for the Tredegar Square address, I found another item of great scandal value!
The Times, Tuesday, Dec 06, 1836; pg. 3; Issue 16279; col F
Court of Kings Bench, Monday, Dec 5
Roberts v. Snow
The plaintiff, Mr Roberts, aged about 40, a journeyman coachmaker, had married in 1830 to his wife, who was now about 25. About three years before she had taken ill and had been attended to by Mr Snow, a 'surgeon of great responsibility and practice', residing near Stepney. Mr Roberts claimed the surgeon, Mr Snow, had taken advantage of his position to 'seduce the affections of the wife from her husband'.
Witnesses included Anne Gray, who in 1834 was a servant to Mrs Roberts, then living in the house of her mother Mrs Middleton. She said that Mr Snow visited Mrs Roberts frequently, on one occasion was in her bedroom in her for two or three hours, right after he left she saw Mrs Roberts lying on the bed with her dress unfastened.
Crossexamination - Mrs Roberts was very ill at the time.
Thomas Dilnor, a greengrocer of Tredegar-Square, had previously been the groom of Mr Snow. For some time Mrs Roberts had rented a room from him - she was there ten months, Mr Snow visited her frequently, first often in the morning and then in the afternoon. He would take her out in his carriage.
Crossexamination- Mr Roberts paid the rent. Mr Snow is a married man with eight children, and is about 40. Mr Roberts did not sleep with his wife, when he came home he had another bed. Afterwards she went to stay with Mr Kislingbury
Eliza Jane Dilnor, 14, - remembered Mrs Roberts lodging at their house. Mr Snow came every day. Once she went up to Mrs Roberts room when Mr Snow was there and the door was locked.
William Kislingbury said that Mrs Roberts had described her husband as unkind, saying Mr Snow was much kinder to her. Suspicious, he made a hole through the ceiling of her room, where the plaster was previously broken. He claimed he had seen Mrs Roberts and Mr Snow kissing, and that Mr Snow had called her 'my dear Mary Ann', and that on one occasion he had seen further 'acts' which The Times declined to specify. 
Kislingbury had then told Mr Roberts of what he had seen, and Mr Roberts apparently came to the house when Mr Snow was with his wife.
In crossexamination Kislingbury mentioned that Mr Snow had brought an action against him for defamation.
The jury found for the plaintiff, damages awarded.
Also some others:
The Times, Monday, Nov 11, 1867; pg. 1; Issue 25965; col A
Bank of England, unclaimed stock. From the estate of William Ephraim Snow, to be transferred and dividends paid to Emma Snow, widow, George Morris Elliot Snow, John Elliot Snow, and Frederic Augustus Snow, executors, who have claimed the same, unless some other claimant shall come forward.
The Times, Wednesday, Sep 16, 1885; pg. 1; Issue 31553; col A
On the 11th inst, at Tottenham, John Elliot Snow, MRCS, LSA, in his 62nd year.
The Times, Monday, Dec 03, 1888; pg. 1; Issue 32559; col A
marriage of George Rose to Emma Elliot, only daughter of the late Elliot Snow of Queensland, Australia, and Mrs Elliot Snow, Glencairn, West Finchley (Australian papers, please copy).
(Emma Elliott Snow b. Australia and widowed mother Emma are on the 1881 census in Finchley)
The Times, Monday, Dec 03, 1888; pg. 1; Issue 32559; col A
On the 5th inst, George Morris Elliot Snow, of Leytonstone, Essex, aged 63.
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Jillie42
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Wow! William Ephraim Snow's grandaughter Emma Lee Snow brought a case against her first husband in 1884 for adultery. The decree nisi was awarded in 1886. They certainly seemed to attract scandle!
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