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dottie58
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I also have an ancestor Edward Green who died here in 1929 aged 90 years old... I was googling his death address, as I also had two addressess on the death certificate..
Couldn't believe my luck when this post came up.....
Thank you to everyone who was contributed with information here.....
dottie
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Carley
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I too have the same address on a birth certificate received today for a birth in 1908.
The birth address is 76 Eridge Road, and the mother is shown as a domestic servant at 9 Naseby Road, Upper Norwood. No father's name appears for the baby though.
Does anyone know when official adoptions came into being in the uk at all? This child travelled to Australia in 1912 by a different surname, and she has been my brick wall for a number of years!
Thanks everyone for answers to questions, and I too found this site from a Google for 76 Eridge Road, so feel very lucky that others were also looking for it. Thanks again and kind regards to all from Carley
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Valda
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Hi Carley
Official adoptions began in 1927
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Valda
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Carley
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Thank you Valda, very much appreciated. Regards from Carley
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therocketteers
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I have received a birth cert for a lady born at 60 Eridge road, and her mother a dom sev elsewhere. Can I assume that 60 was part of the same row of buildings?
The informant though was Reginald W Wilson, who I have found to be the Infirmaries Superintendant.
Why would this be, 4 weeks after the birth? Would the mother have been ill? She too was a lone parent and in 1911 they were living with someone else and the child took his name.
I want to know why she had not registered her herself? could she have been too ill and if so will there be records?
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yashka
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Hi everyone! Googled, as you do, 76 Eridge Road, Croydon looking for my mother's birthplace, (5th June 1934) but it seems this was a euphemism for the workhouse infirmary - is this true? And if it is, does that mean my grandmother, Mary Anne O'regan (or Parsons, or even maiden name Johnson) would have been a resident, or was this used as a hospital for locals? And if she was, are their any records still held? Actually, I'm trying to trace my mother's real father, given as John Parsons, according to her birth certificate who worked at the Omnibus Garage and lived at 34 Fairholme Rd, Croydon. I don't think they were actually married though...can anyone help me through the mire?! Thanks, Dom.
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Valda
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Hi yaska
Welcome to Rootschat
Like many workhouse union infirmaries
'The hospital joined the National Health Service in 1948, and now operates as the Mayday Hospital. Many of the original infirmary structures survive.'
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/
Mayday Hospital is the main hospital in Croydon.
See my previous post for the link to Croydon local studies library where Croydon workhouse and infirmary records are held.
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Valda
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yashka
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Thanks for that Valda. My mother was born in 1934. Would her mother had to have been living there in the workhouse? I'll follow up the links you suggested. Many thanks!!!! Dom
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Valda
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Hi yaska
'The hospital joined the National Health Service in 1948, and now operates as the Mayday Hospital. Many of the original infirmary structures survive.'
i.e. Croydon union workhouse infirmary was the then main 'hospital' for everyone in Croydon. That was the situation far fewer hospitals (and mostly in the main cities) and many many more local workhouse infirmaries. With the coming of The National Health service many of those workhouse infirmaries were just renamed hospitals because that was what they actually were anyway
http://www.nhshistory.net/poor_law_infirmaries.htm
'The infirmary should be separated from the rest of the workhouse and under independent management, and that the treatment of sick paupers should be carried out under different principles from those to which the able-bodied were subject'.
The able bodied in the worhouse that is. Being treated in the infirmary does not presume someone was in the workhouse. If you think of the cost of medical treatment then most ordinary working people when in need of more specialised medical treatment would go to the nearest hospital or workhouse infirmary - in Croydon that was the workhouse infirmary.
'The development of the infirmaries into true hospitals was taken a step further in 1886 when their superintendents met at the Lambeth hospital. They petitioned the guardians and drew attention to the increasing degree of specialisation in medicine. They recommended the appointment of ‘specialists of eminence’ as honorary consultants to the infirmaries.” Slowly and patchily the infirmaries were developing into true hospitals.'
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yashka
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Thanks for that Valda. Incidentally, I'm a bit new t al this, but I'm trying to trace my mother's father. I have an address where they were living in Croydon, but I'm not sure if they were married. There was a correction made to my mother's birth certificate (1947, she was born in 1934) in which his name was supposedly omitted - that's how she found out who her real father was, (which was a shock) but not his background or whereabouts, and I know she'd love to know!
Are there professional researchers who can undertake this work for me? I've tried Ancestry but all I've managed to get are entires in the Birth registers. I'm sure there's more info on there, but it seems to be a bit of a minefield... can you (or anyone reading this) suggest any help?
Cheers,
Dom
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