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Bikers Moll
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So it looks like your Robert died 1851 -1855.
Thanks for that Gadget, I guess it's Scotland's people and the OPR's 
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Gadget
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Problem is that there are no deaths on the OPRs. There are a few burial records for some parishes. There is a link to them on Pam's thread.
I did check the MIs and couldn't find any mention.
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Gadget
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There is a Robert Lowrie listed in Girthon on the 1841 Census, aged 30 -34. Also with the same GROS ref are:
Jannet, 25 -29
John, 7
Ann, 4
William, 2
GROS Ref 866 - 36- 19
This is from 1 unit's info (20p). It would be worth your while viewing the census image itself.
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Bikers Moll
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Just found out for myself that there are no deaths listed on the OPR's (guess that gives me a good excuse to go to Edinburgh though at some point in the near future).
Just about to have a look at the census info.
I've found a marriage between Robert Laurie (Lawrie) and Agnes McNeil in Girthon on 5th April 1846 so it looks as though I'm getting somewhere (at least I hope I am).
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Gadget
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Glad you're finding something. Obviously Janet died between Nov 1841 and April 1846.
Any burial records (lair books) will probably be in Castle Douglas for Kirkcudbrightshire rather than Edinburgh. I had the same problem and visited there. Unfortunately, they didn't have records going back as far as I wanted 
You might be able to pick up something from the Kirk Sessions Minute Books but don't bank on it. They are in Edinburgh.
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MonicaLesl
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It looks possible that living in No.1 and 3, next to Robert and family in the 1851 Census could be Robert Laurie's brothers:
LAURIE Margaret, daughter of William Laurie, 4, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE William, head of household, MINER, 40, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE William, son of William Laurie, 7, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Catherine, daughter of William Laurie, 6, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE David, son of William Laurie, 2, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Grace, daughter of William Laurie, 1, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE John, son of William Laurie, 9, born Dalry Ayrshire
LAURIE Margaret, wife of William Laurie , 30, born Kirkcudbright K
Address: 3 Swan Street, Village of Gatehouse(866) Parish: Girthon
LAURIE Agnes, wife of John Laurie, 36, born Balmaclellan Kb
LAURIE Agnes, daughter of John Laurie, 1, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Edward, son of John Laurie, 5, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE John, head of household, LABOURER general, 41, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Robert, son of John Laurie, 7, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE William, son of John Laurie, 13, born Girthon Kbt
Address: 1 Swan Street, Village of Gatehouse(866) Parish: Girthon
I think that Gadget's find on IGI for Robert's parents looks good (although as a submitted entry, the christening date does seem slightly out):
There are the children showing on IGI for a John LAURIE and Catherine PORTER:
1. WILLIAM LAURIE Birth: 1811 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
2. NANCY THORBURN LAURIE Birth: 27 MAY 1822 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
3. Robert Laurie Birth: 09 JUN 1808 Gatehouse Of Fleet, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
4. CATHARINE LAURIE hristening: 22 SEP 1828 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
5. ANNE LAURIE Christening: 16 APR 1820 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
6. JEAN LOUREY Christening: 28 MAY 1804 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
The girls' entries are all actual extracts, the boys' are submitted entries (may be something to do with only girls' records being loaded onto IGI for this period perhaps?).
There is an actual extract for what looks like parents' marriage:
JOHN LOWRIE Marriages: Spouse: CATHARINE
Marriage: AUG 1803 Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
There is also a submitted entry for this John's death on IGI, perhaps something to follow up to see where the precise date comes from:
John Laurie Death: 20 FEB 1832
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Gadget
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That would fit with the baptism entry I found on the IGI for Robert in 1808 Monica. Patron submission though. I think the reference is about the third message on this thread.
There were 6 other Lowries on the 1841 in Girthon.
Interestingly, I have Porters in Girthon 
Gadget
Oops - see you'd seen it - got buried in everything you've found.
Now if it was Balmaclellan, I have a 1790s census
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Bikers Moll
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Wow - brilliant, I can see that I'm going to be doing some exploring both via this site and in person - after all, it's only really a hop skip and a jump from Cumbria to Scotland
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Gadget
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You could take a boat even - that's how my gang got from KKD to Liverpool and thence to Wales 
So far I haven't found anything on Jannet - some possibles in Ayrshire but 
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Scatza
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Hi Bikers Moll,
I tried to reply last week, but see that it must have disappeared into the ether 
I am not researching the Laurie family, but through my McMurrays from Anwoth/Gatehouse of Fleet, do know something about an Elizabeth Laurie/Lawrie b. abt.1826 Tongland, d. 26 Apr 1898 at Killeron Mill, Anwoth. I do not know who her parents were, but perhaps you have an Elizabeth that fits the bill?
This Elizabeth married abt. 1847 to John McMurray, son of James McMurray and Margaret Sproat. Old James was a weaver and grave-digger in Anwoth, and although it is still a mystery as to how he was related to my McMurrays, I have followed this family and their children as far as possible on Scotlandspeople.
If you're interested, let me know!
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McMurrie/McMurray, McFegan, McClune, Coltart, Shaw, McLean - Kirkcudbright; McMurray, Simpson, Adams, Mussett South Africa
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Bikers Moll
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Hi Scatza
Thanks for your message - unfortunately have been away on business (sometimes the "real" world gets in the way of what we really want to be doing)!
I do have an Elizabeth Laurie but she was born in the parish of Girthon in approximately 1841 (not sure what Parish Tongland comes under). Haven't yet got back to 1826 so there may well be another Elizabeth in there that I don't know about. I'll keep this one in mind.
Appreciate your input
Bikers Moll
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