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maclennan25
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hi there,
i am looking for descendants of the following family.
any help greatly appreciated.
kind regards,
Lorna.
Name: CHARLES ROSS Birth: 5 10 1849 scotland
Spouse: ISABELLA MCRAE Birth: C1847 scotland
Children:
1 F: MARY ROSS Birth: 16 4 1870 ROSSKEEN scotland
2 M: GEORGE ROSS Birth: 1871 scotland
3 F: ISABELLA ROSS Birth: 19 4 1874 ROSSKEEN scotland
4 M: CHARLES ROSS Birth: 14 2 1876 scotland Spouse: ANNIE MORRISON bscotland
5 M: JOHN MCRAE ROSS Birth: 1877 scotland
6 M: DONALD ROSS Birth: 1879 scotland
7 M: WILLIAM CASSELS ROSS Birth: 1883 scotland
8 F: JESSIE ANN ROSS Birth: 1885 scotland
9 F: MARGARET C ROSS Birth: 1887 scotland
10 M: ROBERT MUNRO ROSS Birth: 1889 scotland
11 M: KENNETH MARTIN ROSS Birth: 1891 scotland
12 F: ELIZABETH ROSS Birth: 1894 scotland
Kenneth is believed to have emigrated to Canada as did one of the daughters who married a man with the surname "Warsfold" - i am unsure of the spelling of Warsfold though...
i have a few possible leads for some of my Ross family now, but as yet have been unable to follow up on them...
the following info (copyright?) came from b.c archives http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-2BC28B5/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths
Copyright? - Yes afraid so
Information removed due to copyright violation. See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/copyright.php for more details
i have also found out that kenneth enlisted in the army in canada and robert enlisted in scotland, but sadly robert died during ww1.
i was also told (another messageboard) that kenneth was married twice... 
any ideas as to how i can confirm if they are "my lot" or not?
thanks,
Lorna.
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maclennan25
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John Macrae Ross married Christina Bain Wares 1927 11 15 vancouver
John Mcrae Ross died 1962 2 4 in vancouver aged 80yrs
William Cassels Ross married Ellen Page 1912 9 6 vancouver
William Cassels Ross died 1966 12 31 in New Westminster aged 82yrs
Kenneth Martin Ross married Eliza Lomax 1922 11 16 New Westminster Kenneth Martin Ross died 1976 12 7 in Maple Ridge aged 85yrs
Jessie Ann Ross married Hagbert Arthur Hansen 1922 5 7 Prince Rupert
microfilm numbers,etc of these events can be obtained from: http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-2BC28B5/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths
does anyone have any ideas how i can verify if they are the people i am looking for?
kind regards,
Lorna.
p.s sorry if i breached copyright regulations earlier - i was under the impression that as long as i acknowledged in my posting where the info/copyright came from, there was no breach of copyright??? i guess that is not the case... i hope this edited version is ok. 
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Janice M
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You probably have these already, but just in case.
You can order the full file from the archives.
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc015/614981a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc015/614981b.gif
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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MJP
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Great-grandfather Private Arthur Henry Prior
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Hi maclennan25,
I would say that with all those middle names matching up, it is highly likely that you have found your Rosses. The only way to be sure is to order copies of the records and see if the birth dates and parents names given in the marriage records match with what you know.
If you don't want to pay for copies from the BC Archives yourself, you might find someone on a site like this http://www.raogk.org/ who is willing to go look at the records for you (and will make copies if you reimburse them).
And don't worry about the copyright thing - we have all done it at one point or another! Read the info in the link given by the moderator if you are still unsure. The way I usually think about it is that you can't copy and paste work that someone else has transcribed. You can look at the info yourself and type out your own interpretation, as you have done in your second post, but you can't just paste in someone else's transcription. But read the copyright page for the authoritative version! 
Happy hunting!
MJP
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J.J.
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Jessie Ann Hansen's death is now listed as: June 29, 1967 New Westminster...
Have you found someone to look for you? Bringing this to the top again, hopefully someone from B.C. sees it.... 
Don't forget! The I.G. I. has your second birth as CHARLES GEORGE ROSS born November 24th, 1871 ( this is an extracted listing)
http://www.familysearch.org
Mary and Isabella are also in there dates as you have them...
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maclennan25
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hi mjp,
thanks for the suggestions.
i had hoped i had found the correct people - like you said the middle names aren't the most common and do match up...
however, i can't afford to send off for all of the certificates. 
i did email someone at the raok website in july and by august i had a reply to say they had copies of kenneth martin ross' records for me and were about to look at his obit too - unfortunately, that was the last i heard. i have just sent another reply in case they lost my email address (i know how easy that can be, i have had lots of computer problems, and my backup isn't always up to date  )
hopefully, i will hear something soon...
kind regards,
Lorna.
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maclennan25
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hi jj
thanks for the new info regarding jessie, i will have another look just now, to see if anything else turns up...
sorry i didnt reply the last time about george's birth, i got side tracked and then forgot
i do have a note of those entries in the igi, but when i posted the message about these rosses, i had copied it from elsewhere on the web where i had previously posted it (without success) - the original posting was made before i had seen the igi entry, and i never edited his birth date when i posted it on here.
kind regards,
Lorna.
p.s i also know now that isabella ross (1874) didnt emigrate. she died in scotland in 1951 and she wasn't the one who married the "warsfold" either...
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thanks janice, i do have copies of these.
does anybody have any ideas where i can find out from the death dates where they might be buried?
kind regards,
Lorna.
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Janice M
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I found where Kenneth Martin Ross was buried.
Maple Ridge Cemetery
21404 Dewdney Trunk Road
Maple Ridge, BC, Canada
I'm sure if you write to them, they should be able to tell you if there is any information, with regards to next of kin, etc. It looks like his first wife predeceased him, as his wife is given as Alice May Thomson.
Ross, Kenneth Martin,
b. 23 Jan 1891,
d. 7 Dec 1976,
h/o Alice May Thomson,
s/o Charles Ross and Isabel McCrae
Here is the link for the page, as there are quite a few "Ross's buried there.
http://www.interment.net/data/canada/bc/fraser/mapleridge/index.htm
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Janice M
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Here are people with maiden name of Ross or Mother's maiden name Ross, at the same cemetery. (Maple Ridge)
Duff, Alexander,
b. 6 Aug 1888,
d. 1 Oct 1945,
h/o Isabella Ross,
s/o John Duff and Jean
Duff, Isabella,
b. 22 Nov 1885,
d. 7 Mar 1975,
w/o Alexander Duff,
d/o James Ross and Margaret Walker
Hammer, Mabel Viola,
b. 2 Jun 1916,
d. 2 Jul 1969,
w/o Conrad Leonard Hammer,
d/o Alexander Halliday and Maude Mabel Alice Ross
Tolmie, Andrew Ross,
b. 18 Apr 1870,
d. 24 Mar 1933,
h/o Eunice Katherine Dawson,
s/o William Tolmie and Elizabeth Ross
Wightinan, Rose Gertrude,
b. 9 Sep 1922,
d. 13 May 1938,
d/o John Wightinan and Rosina Ross
Wightman, John,
b. 6 Dec 1885,
d. 26 Oct 1974,
h/o Rosina Ross,
s/o John Wightman and Mary Brown
Wightman, Rosina,
b. 17 May 1885,
d. 24 May 1953,
w/o John Wightman,
d/o James Ross and Annie
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Here is a link the the Bowell Funeral Home in New Westminster, B.C.
http://www.nwpl.ca/bowell/bowell.php
Here is a link to the museum and archives. They have information on local people etc. (Might be worth getting in touch with them.)
http://www.nwpr.bc.ca/parks%20web%20page/museum.html
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maclennan25
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thanks Janice, thats a great help!
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To find out when they immigrated you will likely need to be patient and wait for the 1911 to be completed...
I see that Westminster isn't completed... and the family may have started out there. ( Although perhaps William came out first and then the others followed in later years...)
That won't help with descendants as they were all married post census...
so if you need obit info, you'll have to be diligent and seek a volunteer...
You can try asking someone on this site to do a lookup...make sure that you give them exact dates of death....Use names you are most sure of, if only allowed a limited amount of queries...
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~obitl/vwcan.html
Be sure to read the rules of inquiry before emailing a volunteer...
If you can't get help here, you'll have to try RAGK again...J.J.
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thanks J.J i'll try that... 
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