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ShellDeLeo
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Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« on: Tuesday 03 October 06 18:07 UTC (UK) »

birth for an Alexander Stewart in 1814 in Lochbroom (wondering if this
is
the eldest son of Donald Stewart and Janet Morrison, although there is
no
mother listed on the entry it mentions father as Donald Stuart of
Ardmair).

just wondering if anyone has any info on this alexander stewart thanks Michele
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 06 20:48 UTC (UK) »

hi michele there is a few donald stewart's on the 1841 census, how could i identify yours?

Joe
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 06 21:13 UTC (UK) »

I live in sight of Ardmair, Michele. I know that there were some Stewarts on Isle Martin which is just off Armair. Would that possibly be the family.

I'm sure they moved to Tanera Mor - just off Achiltibuie. It's still in Lochbroom Parish.

Gadget

PS - Lochbroom is quite a big Parish Joe - have you got any addresses?
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 December 06 21:33 UTC (UK) »

as you can imagine gadget, i do not know the area, i have donald and janet and alex all living in assynt, is that any good?
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 December 06 21:36 UTC (UK) »

Assynt is a bit further North - starts just south of Elphin. Ardmair is deffo Lochbroom!

But there were lots of intermarriages.

It might be worth following up Alexander Stewart in 1841 and a possible death post 1855 though.
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 December 06 21:55 UTC (UK) »

i will give you what i have just now gadget.

1841 census: assynt (reckon it is nedd)

donald...age 60...tenant
janet...age 55
alex...age 25

it then looks like triplets!!!

john...age 20
murdo...age 20
neil...age 20

then i wonder who this john is?

john...age 14
william...age 10

ann mc kenzie...age 40

all born sutherland


1851 census: nedd, assynt

Alex...head...age 38...fisherman...born 1813, nedd
peggy...wife...age 32... born nedd
donald...son...age 1...born nedd

hope this of some help

still searching!!!!!!

Joe
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:06 UTC (UK) »

I think Michele is referring to an Alexander Stewart who was bpt 20 March 1814 in Lochbroom Parish, father Donald Stewart.

Lochbroom is in Ross and Cromarty, so I'm not sure that he would say his birthplace was Sutherland. Nedd is quite a way from Ardmair.

I'll have a did around as well.

Gadget
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:07 UTC (UK) »

1851 census: nedd

Janet...head...age 60...clother...born culkine
murdoch...son...age 37...fisherman...born nedd
john...son...age 35...labourer...born nedd
neil...son...age 33...fisherman...born nedd
john...son...age 27...fisherman...born nedd
william...son...age 18...labourer...born nedd

beats me why you would have two sons called john!!! but it is the next bit that really gets me!!!!!

maryan...wife...age 21...born clashlak


bad transcribing i think

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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:16 UTC (UK) »

1841 census says alex living in lochbroom and living with 85 year old donald!!!

what do you think gadget, is that them?

Joe
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:18 UTC (UK) »

I've found a possible family:
1841 - 75-10-9

Ruadh (now Rhue)- which is between Ullapool and Ardmair, Lochbroom parish, Ross & Cromarty:

Donald Stewart, 85-89, crofter, b. R & C
Catherine, 60-64,  b. R & C
Alexander, 25-29,  b. R & C
Duncan, 20-24,  b. R & C
Ann, 25-29,  b. R & C

I don't think the Sutherland ones are the correct ones, Joe  Angry

Gadget

Think we double posted, Joe  Cheesy

Can't find Alex on the 1851 though - we'll have to keep looking!
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #10 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Joe and Gadget

As you have both probably gathered, there is another Donald and Janet Morrison having children in Assynt:

1. NIEL STUART   1815
2. WILLIAM STUART 1822
3. WILLIAM STUART Birth 1832
4. MURDOCH STUART 1819

Nothing showing on IGI for the R & C couple (using both names), entries are probably, as Michele has found, just with father's name for which you would need to search by the batch code.

Regards.

Monica
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:29 UTC (UK) »

1851 census: morfield, lochbroom

alex...head...age 36...fisherman...born LOCHBROOM
ann...wife...age 36
christy...dau...age 10
donald...son...age 8
kenneth...son...age 5
catherine...dau...age 1

all born LOCHBROOM

they have a servant in the household called

murdo stewart...age 21...born lochbroom

will now search the 1861

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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:34 UTC (UK) »

That's the one Joe - he's still in the Ullapool area - went off for a coffee - I've got the image up  Smiley

I'll put the full details up in a moment.

PS Monica Ardmair is not Assynt  Sad

Here it is:

1851 - 75-6-29
Morefield, Ullapool, Lochbroom

Alex Stewart, hd, 36, fisherman,
Anne, 30 (?). b. Ross
Christy, d, 10
Donald, s, 8
Kenneth, s, 5
Catherine, d, 1
Murdo, servant, 20, servant

b. Ross, Lochbroom  (others on page say Ross, Morefield - this I think is Rhue - Morefield is just on my side of Ullapool)
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:39 UTC (UK) »

1861 census: rhue, lochbroom

hiding under the name stuart!!!

alexander...head...age 47...lot tenant
ann...wife...age 46
donald...age 17
kenneth...age 14
catherine...age 10
ann...age 7

all born lochbroom

that is my job finished now with this thread

happy hunting

Joe
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Re: Stewart from Lochbroom and Ardmair
« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 December 06 22:42 UTC (UK) »

That's good Joe  Smiley Smiley - we've now got them and the answer is that Catherine was the mother not Janet as far as I can see - especially with the names!

Added - can't find a death record for him in Lochbroom  Sad

Gadget

Sadly, as far as I can recall, the Lochbroom records are very iffy before 1810. One of my friends had to go to Edinburgh to trace up Sessions Minutes to find his ancestors Sad Assynt is much better recorded.
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