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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 October 06 12:34 BST (UK) »

"Early 1800's 1/2 were from Wadsworth/Hebden Bridge"

I live near Wadsworth and it's not there. I know that doesn't help much, but I suppose at least you know where not to look.

To me the landscape looks very similar to the area north and west of Leeds, but that's just a guess.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 October 06 12:47 BST (UK) »

Thanks Kate,it does help really cos that photo could have been passed on from anyone really!!

I'll try googling pics of Leeds,now!



Any suggestions how the house would be described ie Hall,House etc?
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:03 BST (UK) »

Good luck! It is frustrating when you find these mystery photos. We have one in our family, the subject is a young woman but no one has a clue who she is.

"Any suggestions how the house would be described ie Hall,House etc?"

It could be anything, although there seem to be rather more Halls, than Houses and I haven't come across many Manors. My mother in law has quite a few books about big houses in Yorkshire, and also about local natural history and geography. She is on holiday at the moment, but if you have no luck I'll pop up  when she gets back and see if I can find anything similar. 

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« Reply #18 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:08 BST (UK) »

Thanks Kate,its really bugging me who they are! The photo looks like where my ancestors were from,but I bet they didn't know people like that!!

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:15 BST (UK) »

Not much use on the where -

but I would put the style of clothes as early 20thC c.1904/6 by the young girl's boots, elaborate dress and the large hats. She is attired very similarly to a great-aunt aged 8 or 9 in one of our 1906 photos.
Definitely the older man is an owner or professional person in his frock coat and top hat. They all have their Albert watch chains too.

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:19 BST (UK) »

Thanks,Watermusic-what are Albert Watch chains?
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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:21 BST (UK) »

Andy, the area immediately round Leeds doesn't have the right features, you need to go a few miles North of Leeds before you get a sizeable hill in the background, say Yeadon or Otley with the Chevin or over to Ilkley with the moor or Middleton on the other side of the Wharfe, Baildon on the other side of the watershed from Ilkley moor. Any one of a couple of dozen places are likely candidates.
The best Leeds photo web site is called something like Leodis (that is probably spelt wrong). From Weaver to Web has lots of photos from the Halifax area
There may be two other people in the picture to the right and over the wall or it might just be my old eyes getting tired. No particular significance though, they look as if they are just having a nosy or perhaps they were your ancestors ?.
The 'bottle' ? could be similar to a small 'demijohn' type with loops near the top. There may be a web site that describes antique bottles.

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:40 BST (UK) »

The clock/bell tower is a bit like the one at Chatsworth House (not quite so big)
Does anyone know the proper name for it though as it is probably the easiest feature to google?
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 05 October 06 13:42 BST (UK) »

An Albert, named after Prince Albert, is a security chain usually of gold, or could be silver, that has a bar on one end to fix through a button hole and a clip on the other that hooks through the loop on the pocket watch of the same metal as the chain.
The bar was put through a hole on the wearer's right and the chain loops across, under the top coat, to the watch pocket.

The two gentlemen in flat caps have them; the older gentleman appears to have a tassle? bunch of keys? hanging on a chain to just under the head of his stick.

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Re: Can anyone identify this Location
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 05 October 06 14:06 BST (UK) »


I think it's 'just' a very substantial farmhouse or mill owner's house. There's not enough fancy decoration on the house itself (or a large enough gardens) to suggest anything else in my view.

As someone else said, the background hills are too shallow to be Hebden/ Old Town/ Wadworth. Could well be near Thornton , or many other places.

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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 05 October 06 14:13 BST (UK) »

Well,I've been googling manor houses/halls/country houses in yorkshire and it seems to have a style different to all the ones that come up.

I'm trawling through Leodis-I'd forgot about that site,Dave-and I can't find anything similar.
The landscape seems to suggest somewhere more North,but the style of building is similar to what I've seen round Huddersfield,Halifax and Brighouse.

I've noticed it's got a drainpipe-does that narrow the year down?
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 05 October 06 14:57 BST (UK) »

Is there anything to suggest that it is just a single 'big house'?  Could it not be a terrace of 2, 3 or 4 small houses?

When I was in Brighouse the other week, I saw a house that had identical eaves to the one in your photo.  This one was 2 separate dwellings.

Also, do we know that the house and the people are associated?  Could they not just have happened to stop to have their picture taken at that particular spot whilst they were out on a country walk?

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« Reply #27 on: Thursday 05 October 06 20:16 BST (UK) »

Thanks Kate,its really bugging me who they are! The photo looks like where my ancestors were from,but I bet they didn't know people like that!!



Just a thought, but could your relative be the person taking the picture? Maybe a photographer, or photographers assistant?

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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 05 October 06 20:31 BST (UK) »

Have you tried contacting the local family history society or perhaps a local newspaper if you think it is somewhere in the West Riding area?


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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 05 October 06 22:47 BST (UK) »

More thoughts to ponder.
The 'eaves' are not eaves, they are stone supports for the guttering. There are lots of them around Bradford, Leeds and surrounding areas. I noticed half a dozen houses with them this evening on a short run to my son's house at Wilsden.
 Have I missed a post ? where did the Clock / Bell tower come from ?
The clock/bell tower is a bit like the one at Chatsworth House
Denns suggestion that dry stone walling can be identified down to a few miles. I do know that different areas have different styles but the areas are pretty wide spread, more county to county. It is even possible to tell where one person left off and another took over but again that isn't much help in this case. The coping stones on the wall in the foreground overhang the wall I believe that they may be of more use in identifying the location.
Could be a row of terraced houses there several fall pipes showing and the only gate that we can see is very much off-set from the center. There are buildings to the rear of and in front of the 'house' I don't know what to make of those. The grass could give an indication of the type of soil and from that possible locations. I've no idea from who or where you could find that information.

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