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honey-roma88
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 March 08 00:28 GMT (UK) »

That is quite alright.  Smiley

I'm afraid it isn't his father, I have many photos of his father, he was a strong man and an acrobat and his is grand-daughter was a contortionist as well. It must have been a mate of his. He was a really lovely bloke although he loved a good scrap. Grin
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/honeysett88/Snapshot2008-03-1700-24-09.jpg

I haven't put it on the restoration board yet...I have so many old photos that need restoring and I am trying to do it myself but it is painstaking work.  Undecided
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Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 March 08 01:07 GMT (UK) »

Another amazing photo!  What a family to have, I think it's wonderful.  As they would be called - show business people.  Everyone always wants entertaining.  They would have been in athletics, sport, music, tv etc had they been in today's world.  fabulous.
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 17 March 08 16:05 GMT (UK) »

Another amazing photo!  What a family to have, I think it's wonderful.  As they would be called - show business people.  Everyone always wants entertaining.  They would have been in athletics, sport, music, tv etc had they been in today's world.  fabulous.

It's a shame I inherited none of their talent though. Grin
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Romany/Traveller:
BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 19:59 GMT (UK) »

first of all roms/gypsies would lat their hands to any job that would make them some money although it would be rare to find them working inside except the women who often became laundresses.alot of our folk are agi culture workers just like a lot of the gaujo population.pea pickind,spuds,turnips etc.,some of the gypsy men were tractor drivers cart pullers etc., brick laying no problem.  maggott i notice your family are davis.i have a big problem with my davis/davy/davey/ family in that i cant find them!!sarah davis/davey was reputedly born in glos in about 1823.she married robert hughes and stayed mainly round the west country particularly devon once married.i can find no trace of her except with robert after 1871 when they took the name jones for 10years and then in 1881 when they were back to the name hughes.i dont suppose you or anyone else has any info do you.i would be very grateful/cathayb
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birchs taylors penfold orchard hughes all romany gypsies in the west country
honey-roma88
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 20:53 GMT (UK) »

That was what I had always assumed. Just getting work wherever it was going. It's just common sense I suppose.
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BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 27 March 08 13:04 GMT (UK) »

my great grandfaher was a bricklayer in notting dale , west london , was known as the potteries then , the kiln the bricks were fired in are still there .. his name was michael hayes and he was born in Limerick , ireland .. he could have been a gypsy  i am still trying to find info on this

great photo though
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 27 March 08 21:28 GMT (UK) »

my great grandfaher was a bricklayer in notting dale , west london , was known as the potteries then , the kiln the bricks were fired in are still there .. his name was michael hayes and he was born in Limerick , ireland .. he could have been a gypsy  i am still trying to find info on this

great photo though

The photo of the bricklayers was taken very close to Notting Dale, Fulham I believe around the turn of the century. My gg grandad's daughter (my great grandmother) married a man from Notting Dale in fact (Albert Morgan).

Maybe a few of your ancestors are in that photo.  Smiley
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BLACKMAN, BUCKLAND, BURGESS, DIX, DOBSON, FOLEY, GRANT/PARKER, HUNT, JONES, MUNDAY/MONDAY, MORGAN, NOYELL, ORCHARD, PAGE, REED, VINCENT

Jewish:
BRAHAM, FROST, LYONS

French:
HONEYSETT, LEVETT PETTIT

English:
BELSHAW, BETTSWORTH, CANE, COVENTRY, DOBSON, FRY,  NURSE, POOK, PUTLAND, PUTT, SMITH, SNELGROVE, TEE, TUDGAY, VENUS/VENESS

Irish:
ANDERSON, KILLOUGH, MACCORMACK, MACROBERTS, MORTON, MOORE, WALLACE
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 04 April 08 11:34 BST (UK) »

Maggott, were your Davis from Wales?  My distant cousin Rosemary's great grandmother was a Mary Ann Davis from S Wales, who was Romany.
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Beswick, Roberts, Sladen, Astell, England, Mander, Osborne, Krilovs, Elliott, Brooks, Wilkins, Markham, Raven, Mycock, Johnson, Woodrow, Perry, Overton, Rollings, Seeney, Durber, Kirkbright, Charley, Cleaver, Wilkes, Cotton, Olds, Waine, Evans, Gilbert, Grisold, Price, Wheelhouse.
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 04 April 08 19:17 BST (UK) »

do you know any of mary ann davis s relatives.our gt.gt.gt.gran was sarah davis b.1821 gloucester/wales/cathayb
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 05 April 08 19:23 BST (UK) »

I dont, although she lived in Aberkenfig next door to a Mary Ann Clark. Cant see her on census tho.
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Beswick, Roberts, Sladen, Astell, England, Mander, Osborne, Krilovs, Elliott, Brooks, Wilkins, Markham, Raven, Mycock, Johnson, Woodrow, Perry, Overton, Rollings, Seeney, Durber, Kirkbright, Charley, Cleaver, Wilkes, Cotton, Olds, Waine, Evans, Gilbert, Grisold, Price, Wheelhouse.
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 26 April 08 22:28 BST (UK) »

 well here's one to confuse you all can anyone tell me what a Bath Chair propertior is ?
I have a family and this was Head;s trade and I know they came form gypsy stock
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TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
SMITH JAMES STANLEY LOVELL LEE PENFOLD ORCHARD BOSWELL BROADWAY
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON USA
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 26 April 08 23:16 BST (UK) »

Early bath chairs were small open carriages with a hood which were drawn by a small horse, pony or donkey.  Later they were simply pushed by an attendant.  These latter chairs would be found for hire particularly for invalids in spas etc.

Thus your bath chair owner would be someone who owned either of these and hired them out.

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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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Re: how can travellers be in the bricklaying business?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 27 April 08 11:30 BST (UK) »

Thank you David for your reply and explaination
It just proves that they did do different jobs, before that his guy was also a Bricklayer's labour lol back to the start of this post did they do that sort of job lol
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SMITH JAMES STANLEY LOVELL LEE PENFOLD ORCHARD BOSWELL BROADWAY
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON USA
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