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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« on: Monday 08 November 04 22:36 UTC (UK) »


The fifth episode of the BBC's celebrity Family History series
- 9pm Tuesday 9th November 2004 on BBC2 in the UK (& Europe for Digital Free to Air viewers)


WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
"Seeds of satire
Could Ian Hislop's successful career, based on satirising people in positions of power, be a consequence of his family history? Join him as he learns of his mother's life under Nazi occupation, on Tuesday 9 November BBC2.
" http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/

Ian Hislop, a "Welshman" from the Mumbles, Swansea, although very much an "Englishman", Editor of Private Eye, a brilliant mind and very quick. This programme promises to be a very rewarding one.

This series is well worth watching. Also if you've not used your interactive button before (the red one), then give your thumb a bit of a treat (Sky Digital and Freeview viewers & some Cable areas) - the interactive bit gives you tips on conducting your own research.

Preceded at 8:30pm by
"Family Ties" on BBC4 (the TV channel available for free on Freeview, or on Sky Digital/Cable)
"Lord Longford's Love Child

Thomas Pakenham is the eighth Lord Longford, though this is a title he chooses not to use. When he and his daughter, Eliza, discover a secret account book detailing payments made by one of his forebears 200 years ago, to a number of illegitimate children, he is intrigued by one of them.

This is the story of the enigmatic Catherine Weekes and the mysteries surrounding her. Along the way Thomas finds her grave, tracks down a lost portrait and speculates on the nature of aristocratic marriage and sex."

BBC4 Website

So will you be keeping us company and joining us yet again on the ever squashed and comfier RootsChat sofa and watching Who Do You Think You Are?



See comments on the previous programmes here:

Episode 4:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=17613.0

Episode 3:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=16836.0

Episode 2:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15727.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15673.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=14764.0

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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 November 04 22:44 UTC (UK) »

Remember the "Family Ties" is BEFORE "Who do you think you are" not AFTER, like in previous weeks (on BBC4).

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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 November 04 12:52 UTC (UK) »

It's Ians turn!

What delights await us? Are we going to be dazzled by the apparent ease with which one can compile a family tree going back 10 generations?

ooooh I can't wait.

Make him cry like a lost kitten.

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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 November 04 20:33 UTC (UK) »

"Family Ties" has just started on BBC4.
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 November 04 23:20 UTC (UK) »

So what did you all think of it?

I found it interesting historically, and I admire Ian Hislop - I think I learnt the most about the utter sacrifice of war in this programme.

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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 November 04 23:25 UTC (UK) »

I enjoyed it thoroughly. Ian is a complex man but appeared here as a thoroughly sympathetic man, devoted to his family. Not many of us can spend such money on our family history but let us not grudge someone who can.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 November 04 23:45 UTC (UK) »

I was initially very sceptical about the program given the comment about "anoraks" which was used in the shows pre publicity ..... very obviously as has been shown during the show out of context.
Ian Hislop himself went up several notches in my estimation and came across as someone interested in the people who were his ancestors.
I must rank this as the best (for me) in the series so far.
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 November 04 09:52 UTC (UK) »

I am a big fan of Ian Hislop and I thought he came across very well (although his daughter didn't look over impressed by the whole thing!).   It was also good timing on the programme makers part to put this one on in the week of Rememberance day.  I agree with Trystan that it was interesting historically rather than genealogically (is that a real word?!).  Personally not my favourite of the series.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 November 04 18:00 UTC (UK) »

Enjoyed very much I have to say, except for the "I used to think that all Genealogists were dull" comment!   Tongue
Even said that I hope all the travelling was paid for by him and not from my license fee!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 November 04 20:09 UTC (UK) »

I think that the idea of the show is great but they always seem to find things very easily, it would be interesting to see how many programmes were researched to find these interesting ones.

I've been doing this dull hobby since 1977 and my anorac is worse than Roy Cropper's shopping bag but I have found hundreds of ordinary people as well as several very exciting ones.  They are all my ancestors and the ordinary ones are just as important.

Let's have a show about an ordinary person from the street picked at random and given to the "expert" to see what he can do then.  It would be compelling TV.

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WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 November 04 22:30 UTC (UK) »

I thoroughly enjoyed the programme and thought it made great TV. As others have said in relation to the series, each programme is themed and this one was timed to coincidence with Remembrance.

I have to disagree with teddybear. I don't think such a programme (with the man from the Clapham omnibus) would be necessarily interesting (let alone compelling) to anyone other than the subject, their family and a proportion of already-committed genealogists. What makes this series successful (and it clearly is very successful) is its ability to break the, ahem, anorak barrier and communicate and bring our hobby to a wider audience. Celebrities (whether we like it or not) can do that; the man on the Clapham omnibus won't do that.
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 10 November 04 22:41 UTC (UK) »

Grey squirrel put my thoughts far better than I could. I am not much for the cult of celebrity perhaps because I have no idea who most of the celebrities are. But a programme about my own ancestors would be of little interest except to me and my family. What we do see from these programmes is that even the famous often have ancestors as undistinguished as ours. That gives us a common bond with them - they are like us. Conversely the pretentious Thomas Pakenham, Lord Longford [but we don't use the title] and his so-precious daughter are celebrities with whom we can form no bond [and, incidentally his writings about the Boer War are not really good or accurate].
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« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 November 04 10:38 UTC (UK) »

I watched this episode last night. There were some very interesting bits, like the Munroe Matherson (?) army records from the early 1800's, When Nick Bates mentioned that there were two men, with the same name, from the same town, in the same regiment... i thought "at last!! something I can relate to!!!"

It did seem to be a lot of Ian Hislop, globe-trotting tho, not too much records searching. Last week they found out tons of info on one man, this week they seemed to skim over three men and his grandmother. Not enough in depth for me.

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 November 04 19:41 UTC (UK) »

I've thoroughly enjoyed the series even though it doesnt really go into enough depth for me.  The only one I didnt enjoy was Jeremy Clarkson but thats because I think he's a complete bore.   The series has been a lovely taster but could do with a more indepth series in the future.
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Re: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (Episode 5)
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 13 November 04 09:21 UTC (UK) »

I missed this one unfortunately!  Tuesday night is quiz night at the Nag's Head and the video has to choose between WDYTYA and Little Britain - and guess which won - Yeah I Know  Grin
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