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BBC Radio Gloucs: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:10 BST (UK) »

We know that Julius came to London in June 1852 on board Countess of Lonsdale from Hamburg.  His occupation was brass finisher.

In 1881 he says he was from Germany.

He was married in 1857, but only gives his father's name as John.

The name might have been changed.

We would like to know where in Germany (or Prussia) he came from.

Many thanks!

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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:33 BST (UK) »

Hello and welcome!

Just so we have a starting point I'll post the 1871 ...

1871 - 18 Clarendon Redbt?, Lambeth

Julius Wornast 40 Brass Finisher b. Prussia
Eliza 35 b. Surrey Walworth
Frederick 13 b. Westminster St John
Julius 10 b. Lambeth
Adolph 8 b. Middx St Giles
Wilhelme? 6 b. Middx Cripplegate
Albert 3 b. Lambeth
Harriet 1 b. Lambeth


RG10/677
Folio: 55

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1881 - 22 Latchmere Street, Battersea

Julius Wornast 50 Musical Instrument Maker b. Germany (Foreign)
Eliza 45 b. Surrey Walworth
Julius 20 Musical Instrument Maker b. Surrey Lambeth
Albert 13 Errand Boy b. Surrey Lambeth
Harriet 11 b. Surrey Battersea
Andrew 5 b. ditto
Charles 2 b. ditto

RG11/647
Folio: 135


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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:36 BST (UK) »

Hi BBC Gloucs  Smiley

Unfortunately, he doesn't give any more clues on other census returns  Undecided

I can't find Naturalization papers on the National Archives catalogue either so far, nor a christening on the IGI.

Not much help ... just wanted to say I'm searching  Wink

PS Have searched the 1861 census for other Wornasts, in case he came over with his family... They seem to be the only Wornasts around  Sad
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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:39 BST (UK) »

Hi "WORNAST searcher",

here are a couple of tips, where to look . . .

The first place to look is the TNA at Kew, to see if your ancestors were naturalised.
see Topic: RootsChat Topics - Naturalisation and Internment
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,157691.0.html
forget that one, just seen the last post

this site gives a lot of links to various passenger lists, some for Europe, but most to the USA. Might be worth looking to see if he is listed somewhere.
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/ei.html

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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:43 BST (UK) »

A quick note to keep in mind for later.

On the IGI (although this is incomplete) there are various births and marriages for Wornasts and they all seem to come from - Vital, Aachen Stadt, Rheinland, Preussen.  Sadly no Julius.


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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:45 BST (UK) »

Doesn't help with the original query but there is an inquest report in "The Times" 31 Dec 1883 for Adolph Edgar (age 21 pastrycook) who drowned in "The Thames" near Chelsea.  Mother Eliza WORNAST of 22 Latchmere Road, Battersea.

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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:51 BST (UK) »

Hello everyone - thanks for the quick responses!

Our customer will get back to you when they get home, but meanwhile they are very excited by your finds: thanks a lot!

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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 October 06 10:58 BST (UK) »

This may help later, when you have more information.

a search for WORNAST on the genealogienetz (the biggest german gen. site)
http://www.genealogienetz.de/
more specifically, here
http://meta.genealogy.net/
brings up a WORNAST researcher from Neumark in (present-day) Poland, then Prussia.

You can contact him through the site, but, probably better, when you have some more details.

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Re: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 October 06 11:01 BST (UK) »

The other thing to think about (as I've had to with my German ancestors) is, if they were Lutheran then one of the main centres of German Lutheran life in london was the German Lutheran Church in Alie Street.  The records are kept at the Tower Hamlets Archives and may be a route of investigation.  I have seen the records (without success for my lot!) and they may be worth checking.

http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/data/libraries-leisure/data/libraries/history-archive.cfm

They are generally very helpful.

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Re: BBC Radio Gloucs: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 October 06 20:20 BST (UK) »

hello everyone,  I am the person who went to get help and advice from BBC radio Gloucs on Saturday and was lucky enough to talk to "Arranroots" who posted this message about my great grandfather Julius Wornast.
I am very grateful to you all for the help and information that you have given me  and would welcome any further help you can offer.
I have now registered with Rootschat as DODO1 but must tell you I am not great on a computer so I may take a while to get used to this facility so please bare with me.
Thanks again; bye for now.

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Re: BBC Radio Gloucs: Julius WORNAST - where in Germany?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 October 06 20:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Dodo,

Welcome  Smiley

Don't worry about your computer skills - many of us are not 'great on a computer' Grin


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