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fred59
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Hi i am need of help regarding Census, hopefully 1901 for Inverness if possable, i am doing this research for a 88yr old lady who was left orphaned aged 8yrs and she would like to find out about her Scottish roots the info below is all i have to offer ....can anybody find more please....
Bennet Joseph Fraser, born at a place called Raining Stairs, Inverness. but not sure of his date of birth...he did serve in the first world war so my guess is that he was born during the 1890s and he maybe on the 1901 census as a child. his father was a Tailor and thats all we know.
any help would be gratfully recieved and welcomed by this old friend.
Thanks Gordon
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MonicaLesl
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Gordon
The Scotlands People site is experiencing problems today with searches and viewings. I'll try again to search for those names when it's up and running.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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fred59
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Thanks for that, hope to her from you later 
Gordon
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MonicaLesl
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There you go, I think it was listening!
This is the only birth entry coming up in Inverness-shire which includes the name Bennett (with wildcards for variants and Fras/zer):
1902 FRASER WILLIAM BENNETT in INVERNESS/INVERNESS-SHIRE
With Joseph only and the surname Fraser:
1. 1897 FRASER DONALD JOSEPH in KILMORACK/INVERNESS-SHIRE
2. 1891 FRASER JOSEPH in KILMORACK/INVERNESS-SHIRE
3. 1905 FRASER JOSEPH in INVERNESS/INVERNESS-SHIRE
4. 1896 FRASER SIMON JOSEPH in INVERNESS/INVERNESS-SHIRE
5. 1895 FRASER WILLIAM JOSEPH in INVERNESS/INVERNESS-SHIRE
Regards.
Monica
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fred59
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thanks for that its a good start, hope to hear from you later on regarding 1901 census.
Thanks very much
Gordon
ps his father was a Tailor by trade.
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MonicaLesl
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Gordon
Which one do you think he is?!
There's no Joseph Bennet birth listing. Were your friend's parents married in Scotland? It may be worth while trying to work back rather than missing out events along the way. The marriage cert., if Scottish, would include Joseph Bennet Fraser's parents which would also help on searches. Also, did your friend's father die in Scotland?
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Just found this google reference to Raining's Stairs which includes an old photo and history:
www.ambaile.org.uk/en/item/item_photograph.jsp?item_id=4362
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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nickgar
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Hi Gordon
As Monica said, there was a William Bennet Fraser born 26/12/1902 in Inverness. Whilst it doesn't show the Raiining Stairs as his place of birth, it does show Denny Street which is just adjacent to the Ardconnel Street end of the Raining Stairs.
His parents were William Alexander Fraser ( a stone cutter) and his mother was Mary m.s. Chisholm. They were married 25/12/1900
Hope this may be some help if only to eliminate some.
Regards
Nick
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MonicaLesl
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There's only one Joseph Fraser of the right age range in Inverness at the time of the 1901 Census. He is showing as age 6. Parents born in Inverness but he was born in Lanarkshire. Father Hugh is a gardner, mother Margaret. Address not great to read but looks like 15 Young Street.
Nick, is this anywhere near the Raining's Stairs area? No idea of geography there!
Monica
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MonicaLesl
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Oh, I've just found it myself on multi-map, Young Street corners with Castle Street at one end. So, a possible. Pity about the gardner bit would have been great to see tailor there for father Hugh but people could change trades.
I think we may need some more info. Any more scraps of info there Gordon?
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nickgar
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Hi Gordon.
Although map probably shows Young Street as being near Castle Street, it's not that close. I have some old Inveness maps so I'll check it out. Lots of changes have happened in inverness in the last century, new bridges over the river etc etc.
As you might have guessed I live in Inverness so any help I can come up with.......... As Monica said any more info at all would help a lot.
Nick
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fred59
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Gordon
Which one do you think he is?!
There's no Joseph Bennet birth listing. Were your friend's parents married in Scotland? It may be worth while trying to work back rather than missing out events along the way. The marriage cert., if Scottish, would include Joseph Bennet Fraser's parents which would also help on searches. Also, did your friend's father die in Scotland?
Monica.
Yes they were married in Scotland he married Christina Margaret Robinson, date & location unknown.
Not sure which one he is..the only one with Bennett in the name would have been a bit young to join up in the First World War?
They (Bennett and his wife ) died in Burma in about1926.
In the First World War in served inthe Queens Own Camaron Highlanders.
i am myself beginning to wonderer if he born before the 1890s as she insists his name was Bennet Joseph Fraser and his father was a Tailor by trade in Inverness.
Thanks for all your help and also thanks Nickgar for yours too.
Gordon
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MonicaLesl
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I think Bennet J. and Christina may not have married in Scotland and if they also died in Burma, neigh on impossible to get verification of his family. There are no marriage entries for them on Scotlands People.
I had a look for births of Christina Margaret Robinson between 1880 and 1905 and there are no Robinson entries just 12 Robertsons and 1 Robson entries.
I did look for earlier births in Inverness for Bennet/Joseph and there was only one earlier one in 1886. Would you believe the father was also a gardner!
I'm at a loss as to what to suggest next. I don't know if you are aware that searches in Scotland through Scotlands People site actually cost money! Unlike viewing English Censuses through Ancestry on subs., on SP you have to pay to search (£0.20) and view (£1.00) each BMD and Census image. So unlike Ancestry where you could easily view each relevant Fraser entry in Inverness in 1901 for example until you found a tailor, on SP each view would cost a £1......
Monica
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fred59
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Thanks for your help, i have just been informed that there is a marriage certifcate for the said Bennett and Christina, so hopfully that will give me more details on where to go next, thanks again.
Gordon
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nickgar
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Hi Gordon
glad you've made some progress, have you found out where the marriage took place?
I don't know where you or Monica are located, and the on line SP search is expensive but FYI, (in case you didn't know), you can do a personal search at the NRO in Edinburgh. It costs £17.00 for a full day and you can do as much searching as you can squeeze in the day. It also covers all records up to the current day.
I've been there quite a number of times and would offer to look for you, but I'm not plannning to visit for a couple of months again. It's about a 300 mile round trip even from here !!!
Best of luck with your search anyway.
Nick
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