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Topic: GERMANY: Niedersachsen Archive site (Read 4991 times)
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Rena
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James McCarthy
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This is a great new state website which is being constantly updated from surviving migration records and some include the cost the migrants paid! I haven't found my gt.grandfather online yet but I've seen there are migration records of some of his uncles & aunts to Australia and USA with the notes:
Juni 1864 heimlich ausgewandert (secretly emigrated)
and: verurteilt als ausgetretener Militärpflichtiger (condemned as withdrawn from required military service)
Out of curiosity I entered the family's village and was excited to see details of my 3 x gt.grandfather's name and place of work plus there's a document I can order showing other family members complaining about the cost of using the new windmill 
http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/
Good Hunting
Rena in England
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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Neko
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can you direct us further in using this site? I can't seem to find anything much on either Bergzabern or Weyrauch, and what I did find I didn't understand all that much. and the dates didn't fit. a pity the site isn't available in English. I also couldn't find the surname Ultsch, which could be Ultch or some such in the old country, and got no hits back for the town of Scheichen.
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Airey Aitken Atkinson Alston Barr*tt Cross Freeman Gage Harlock Harris Hawkins Head Hudd Parker Peckover Pennington Rayner Richards Seaman Smith Smyth Waterfall
Elizabeth Burnham, Mary Church, John Davis Cooper, Hannah Cork, Aubrey Cross, Mary J. Docwra, Elizabeth Griffiths, Chas Halifax, John Head, Lavinia King, Mary & Martha Mayhew, Alfred Augustus Mayo, Wm Pettit, Hezekiah Richards, Martha Sewell, Rebecca Sidnell, Hannah Smith, Augustin Smyth, Annie Southan, Catherine Till/Tell, Fanny Watt
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Rena
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Posts: 892
James McCarthy
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Sometimes there's so many people on the site I've had to enter my search word twice.
On home page if there's no place to enter your search criteria (surname, etc) look on the left -
1)you are looking to click on Allgemein Recherche which is under the word 'suche'
2) Enter name in space provided
3) look on righthand side CLICK on "Auswandersuche"
4) If the next page does NOT have a list of state ARCHIVs enter your search word again on this new page and click WEITER which will bring up the page containing the list of archives. There are a handful of archives (about6 or 7)
5) directly under the archive list on the right is SUCHEN - click on 'Suchen'
YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT THE RESULTS PAGE
6) This next page will have every item that each archive has on your subject and each item is given an archive reference number "Bestellnumber". On the right of each number is a short outline of what the document is.
You need to look out that you don't miss other documents - so scroll to the bottom of the webpage to see what this page consists of: sometimes under each section is Page 1 of 104 ("Seite 1 of 104") and you should click on the arrow > to bring up the next page of that section.
To give you an idea: My family is from the state of Hannover the prefix is "HANN74" and the family lived in the Liebenburg area therefore the ref would be "HANN 74 Liebenburg --- " I do look at other references because the port of departure would have an embarkation record. If the family had secretly absconded other authorities would have a record of them.
Hope this helps
Rena
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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Rena
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Posts: 892
James McCarthy
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YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT THE RESULTS PAGE
6) This next page will have every item that each archive has on your subject and each item is given an archive reference number "Bestellnumber". On the right of each number is a short outline of what the document is.
I forgot to mention (No.6) that once you get to the page showing the Reference Numbers (Bestellnumber) you'll see those numbers are underlined which is an indication that you should click on it.
Sorry I've been so longwinded - I've been doing the actions on the website whilst I've been writing this so you should be ok.
Rena
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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JLo
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Thanks Rena
Looks a really useful website - although I'm going to have to swot up on my german! At last somewhere that lists lots of Löwenthals! Just have to work out if any of them are mine 
Julie
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMarshall, Beeson (Herts) Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham) Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex) Poulton, Philbrick (Essex) Guest, Timmins (Staffs) Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham) White (Bucks) Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex) Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada) |
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loo
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Thanks, Rena. Will have to try this when I'm fresh and alert!
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ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot, Westminster Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Co.Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol, London
WW1 internments
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JLo
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Didn't have any luck finding my elusive ancestors (Jewish Germans - need I say more!), but can recommend using Babel Fish translator to help with translating German to English. It's free 
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMarshall, Beeson (Herts) Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham) Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex) Poulton, Philbrick (Essex) Guest, Timmins (Staffs) Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham) White (Bucks) Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex) Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada) |
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Rena
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Posts: 892
James McCarthy
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Didn't have any luck finding my elusive ancestors (Jewish Germans - need I say more!), but can recommend using Babel Fish translator to help with translating German to English. It's free http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Remind me what the names are and any clues, such as occupation or birth year and I'll have a look.
Rena
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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JLo
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Thanks Rena,
It's only one person I've got to go on 
Surname: Löwenthal/Loewenthal/Lowenthal
First Name: Maurice/Moses/Marcus/Morice/Morris/Mordechai (his Jewish name)
He was born in 1831 in Prussia, possibly Berlin (1871 census says Berlin, 1861 census is unreadable but NOT Berlin!)
The first definite siting in UK is 1860 when he married in the Synagogue, Parish of Great Saint Helens, London. He married an English Jew. His father is named as Lipmann (or that what it looks like!) on his wedding cert. but is "deceased" in 1860. I also have a copy of his Jewish wedding certificate.
He worked as a manufacturer of leather goods.
He died in 1880 in Southwark.
Not a lot to go on really, I know. I did find a Moses Lowenthal in the naturalisation records, obviously got very excited, but it wasn't him
Any help greatly appreciated, have been very slowly circling in on him for the last 9 years!
Julie
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMarshall, Beeson (Herts) Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham) Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex) Poulton, Philbrick (Essex) Guest, Timmins (Staffs) Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham) White (Bucks) Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex) Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada) |
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Rena
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James McCarthy
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Hi
Two great minds think alike. I entered judisch and jud* (with umlaut) onto the site and I mostly got reams of names of schools, synagogues, police archives dating from 1700's onwards.
I then entered all of your surname with a wildcard* instead of the last syllable. There were only 2 families from the parish of Uslar and they went to America - have you linked up with them - they may have spare information that you could use.
I've also been onto the Teldir telefon site and can see your name is listed for 125 people - several are in BERLIN - addresses are given. I noticed others were mostly in other large cities such as Hamburg, Koeln/Cologne, Essen, Munich, Frankfurt and a handful dotted in small places. Interestingly there's a family in Goettingen which is only 36K from Uslar.
You can get onto Teldir white pages and use its English version by going to www.infobel.com website.
Possibly your man stated the nearest large town? I don't know which principality Berlin was in prior to 1861 but presumably you would. Have you joined a good vibrant genealogy mailing list such as hannover-l ? Usually if nobody has any direct info they can point to certain aids. This year one newbie USA researcher was given a few names from the phone book, she wrote to a likely family - and got an excited reply - "We are your family"!!!
Wish that happened to me
As an afterthought - you mentioned Lipmann - were there any Lipmann's on the census you looked at? Quite often family and neighbours follow the first emigrants. This happened in my case, proved when I compared the 1871 English (Hull) census with the 1852 German census and saw all surnames had come from one small area around Salzgitter.
Good luck
Rena in England
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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sandiep
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Hi Rena
do the records you acess have anything around 1811? I have been brickwalled by my hubbies Raphael family ............on the 1841 they are down as foriegn on the 1851 it says German british subject..............Samuel Raphael & Sarah Franks I do know Sarahs parents but not where in Germany they come from but all I know of Samuel is that on his marriage record it says heis son of Meir HaLevi............Ihave tried lots of sites but no luck so any suggestions gratefully received
sandie
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Pender, Raphael,Lambert,Digby,Stent, Dowell,cornish,mulley,Death,Rosier, East End,Suffolk,Essex,Cornwall,Devon,London, middlesex, hertfordshire Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Rena
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James McCarthy
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Hi Rena
do the records you acess have anything around 1811? I have been brickwalled by my hubbies Raphael family ............on the 1841 they are down as foriegn on the 1851 it says German british subject..............Samuel Raphael & Sarah Franks I do know Sarahs parents but not where in Germany they come from but all I know of Samuel is that on his marriage record it says heis son of Meir HaLevi............Ihave tried lots of sites but no luck so any suggestions gratefully received
sandie
Several archives are putting records onto the site - I see some go back to the 1700's.
I don't know what you are referring to for the 1811 year, if it's a birth year you will not find any church records on this site, although it does give archive addresses. Napoleon ruled most of Europe until about 1812. I didn't know Raphael was a German name, however, I see it was used MOSTLY as a given name and if your family were/are Jewish there were RAPHAEL references on the website - if I recall correctly there were a few Solomon Raphael references (Judisch/Jewish) You can either use babelfish or the google language translator for rough translations.
<<he is son of Meir HaLevi>> There was reference to Meyer/Meier on the Raphael search - I think you need to go to the site yourself.
I think I've looked up the Frank name before and it's been in England for centuries according to nationalarchive online records - there used to be a European mainland tribe with that name. Frank/Franck/Franke is a common name in Germany and the server timed out on me. Were your Frank family musicians? Coincidentally there was a Frank family in the Salzgitter area I'm researching :-
Steinlah parish records showing a
Johann Konrad Ehlers (b18-1-1829), musician, married to
Johanna Marie Katharine Sophie FRANKE (b21-2-1831).
London Census:
John FRANK Lodger (Head) W Male 71 Germany Musician
Rena
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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Rena
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James McCarthy
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Hi Rena:
:DThank you for the tips. Will try to wend my way into this site. Looking for Palatines who left Prussia abt 1708 or 1709. Surname is May? Wonder if that is Anglacized? Do you know? Thanks for the tips.
Lauraine
I haven't the foggiest notion 
I know we had a famous English cricketer called Peter May a few decades ago. I've had a look at the British nationalarchives to see if your May family served in one of our armies made up of locals over in Europe but I got thousands of archive entries based on the month of 'May'! I should imagine it used to be the normal Meyer/Meier but it's always best to keep an open mind.
Talking of armies reminds me - I noticed on the site that some emigrant records referred to the military, but I don't know whether the men (and sometimes with their families) were being sent to USA as soldiers or what. If you've been on familysearch site you will have seen in the library there's quite a few films of the military conscription rolls - every parish priest had to send the names of every young male in his parish as soon as he reached 18 or 20 years old. Europe were warring amongst themselves since time began so some records are quite old.
good luck.
Rena
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Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy
Leith area: Mason, Telford, Darling, Cruikshanks, Sime, Bell
Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar
Ross, Urray:Mackenzie
Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell
Perthshire: Brown Ferguson
Wales: McCarthy, Thomas
England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells
Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke
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