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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #15 on: Friday 17 November 06 14:59 GMT (UK) »

do you know if Eliza had any siblings as i have a Florence Lucy Jones born1877 in denton northats she married a Fredrick e hollowell her perants were Mary  no last name and George Jones
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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 November 06 22:17 GMT (UK) »

Sorry don't know of any siblings.  Anyway I think the birthdates are a bit far apart - 1834 for Eliza and 1877 for Florence.  And Eliza's parents were John and Elizabeth.

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 18 November 06 10:10 GMT (UK) »

OK thanks for that it was worth a try as i cant find much more than what i have put up on my Jones line and i got this off  of a census
thanks sam
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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 December 06 16:45 GMT (UK) »




   Hi Bob.....

 I must be loosing it as I thought I had posted this already...it would seem not Embarrassed

  Went to Stony Stratford library and got hold of the books for St Giles.
 For Eliza I checked from 1828-1838 and nothing for Eliza Jones.
 I then looked in the index for Oliver to find a connection to her mother...no luck again .. :)BUT Smiley...I did find this....

 Dec 25 1840 Mary Jane dau of John Jones..painter
                                                & Zillah

 Jan 2 1842 Ann Elizabeth dau John Jones glazier Huh
                                               & Zillah

 July 9 1843 Louen John  son John Jones plumber Huh
                                               & Zillah.

  so on my census I found 1851 WOLVERTON

  HO107/1737 F217 SCH 0002

 Jones John   hd m m 34 Sulgrave Nrth Plumber
          Zillah   wi f m    32 Calverton
         Mary J  da f u   10 Stony Stratford
      Ann E     da f u      9    "       "      "
     Louen J  son m u   7    "        "      "
     Thomas J son m u 5 Calverton
      Catherine S da f u 4 Calverton
     Harriett L     da f u 2 Calverton
    William H      so  m u   1 month Wolverton
  Souster Thomas lo m  21 Fenny  Stratford plumber.

  So it is possible that her mother died and John remarried in 1840 in Calverton to Zillah Wright.
  I need to go through burials next but we now have a John Jones painter/glazier/plumber...alround handy man in thr right place at the right time.

            Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Sorry for not posting sooner I dont know what went wrong


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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 07 December 06 08:30 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie

Thanks for your diggings, and 'loosing it' is not a problem. You see when someone tells me I'm loosing it I don't remember what I've lost.  Roll Eyes

Looked up on the IGI and found John and Zillah's marriage but nothing else.
John must have felt he was superman with all those trades.

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 January 07 09:57 GMT (UK) »




    Hi Bob...

Latest update on Eliza front....

Have now checked Calverton PR ....no marriage for John & Elizabeth
                                                         no baptism for Eliza
                                                         no burial for Elizabeth
     First baptism is Thomas Jabez son of John & Zillah glazier.

  If Elizabeth is the one closet found by Dinie she was Cosgrove but that is Northants area even though it is straight acroos the A5 from Stony .

I will check Wolverton as well but  that gives a few more churches as during this time the railway draws more people into the area for work.

Will keep in my book for next time at the records.

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 13 January 07 11:29 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie

I have just P.M. someone who has Ancestry and asked if he can find them on the 1841 for you.

Cheers Sandy
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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 13 January 07 15:01 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Sandy... Wink

No sign of Eliza Jones as yet ...  Sad

but in Church street/road/ ? , Stony Stratford, West side St.Giles, we have ...

John Jones  age 25    NOT born in county ; Plumbers J. 
Zillah Jones  age 20   born in county
Mary Jones  age 7 mnths  born in county

HO107/59/9 folio 11 page 17   Potterspury RD

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 13 January 07 22:26 GMT (UK) »




    Hi all.....

  Sorry been out all day just got back...

please if anyone can have a go at 1841 for me....

I have 1851 which shows an elderly couple called Oliver in Stony Stratford ..Eliza's mum was an Oliver..

  Yep John they married 1840 Calvert..thats them.

                Thanks

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 14 January 07 03:50 GMT (UK) »

What can I say people, thanks to everybody who has taken up the cudgels on behalf of Eliza Jones and me.   Cheesy   Seems like we may be getting somewhere eh! 

Certainly looks like John the supertradesman may have been married to Eliza's mum prior to Zillah.

Cheers

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 14 January 07 08:05 GMT (UK) »

FreeBMD has marriage of John Jones at Potterspury RD in June quarter 1840 vol 15 page 529 . On Same page is Zillah Wright.  This ties in with the IGI marriage on 30 APR 1840 at Calverton.

Also I noticed in the 1841 census entry for John & Zillah, there is in the same household (although seems to be separate) an Ann Wright age 15, born in county - Zillah's sister maybe ?

even if this is Eliza's father - where is she in 1841 Huh

has she been sighted in 1851 ?
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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 14 January 07 08:46 GMT (UK) »




     Good morning John.....


  I only have my Bucks cd 1851 and the closest on there is an 18 year old house servant in Soulbury but she has b Sydenham Oxon as birth place.

Are you able to look on a full search?

  Her mothers maiden name is given as Oliver and there are a couple in the area but she doesn't appear with them.

                   Thanks

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 14 January 07 08:51 GMT (UK) »

Thanks John

Knew you would come up trumps.  Smiley

If John was aged 24 in 1841 then he was born roughly abt 1817 so if as stated Eliza
was born in 1834? then he would have only been 17+.

Quite possible for a marriage with parents consent.

Also if the 1841 census notes 1st child born shortly after marriage is this the correct family?

Need someone to check if the said John was a Widow when marrying Zillah.

It maybe that Eliza is with Grand-parents on the 1841 John so maybe a look under Oliver might be of assistance.

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 14 January 07 09:05 GMT (UK) »




  Hi Sandy.....

 At the moment as you see from the postings we do have a John Jones painter /Dec / in the right place but yes we are only second guessing that he is the one we are looking for.

 I have been into Stony and so far checked St Giles for an Eliza...Calverton ( were the marriage took place to Zillah) IGI member sub also shows John b here @1816.

  So really what we need is an Eliza Jones b 1834 Stony Stratford to jump out on a census and as yet she is not playing ball.....

   Do you have anything on Cosgrove ?

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Re: Eliza JONES - Stony Stratford
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 14 January 07 09:08 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie

I do have the 1841 census for Northamptonshire so will re-look.

Sandy
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