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Spanish_Eyes
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John - James William & Peter Elmer Sabiston
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Can anyone help me with information on John Sabiston born September 26, 1844 in Stromness, Orkney Islands?
I am trying to find his parents and siblings.
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AMBLY
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Falkland Islands "Desire The Right"
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Hi there
Welcome to Rootschat!
There seems to be 2 other John SABISTON's born Stromness around the same time-frame (1843) on IGI.
Did your John marry under the jurisdiction of Scotland (on Orkney or the mainland?) If he did and you know who he married, perhaps finding the marriage first - because if it occured after 1855 the marriage should name his father and his mother, with his mother's maiden name.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Cheers
AMBLY
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Spanish_Eyes
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Hi Ambly
My John Sabiston left Orkney for Canada when he was about 17 years old.
I noticed one in there one time that was born September 15, 1843 and wondered if he changed his birthdate when he was in Canada with the Hudson's Bay Company.
Perhaps you can eliminate some you know of.
Cheers, Spanish Eyes
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AMBLY
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Hi there SpanishEyes
I see the DOB is as provided on the 1901 Manitoba Census - do you have it from any other source? I am guessing he is the one who married Margaret FOLSTER and he died 20 Nov 1918, Saskatchewan - age 76, which puts his YOB as around 1842. The 1906 Census gives him as age 65, which is YOB 1841.
Just found this!
http://www.cursiter.com/pages/guestlog.htm
It has a contact name and address, and says:
John Sebastion b 1811
Margaret CREELMAN b 1815
were parents of John SABISTON born 26 September 1844 Stromness
The IGI has the marriage of John SABISTON and Margaret CRELMAN
25 OCT 1838 Stromness, Orkney
And they are the parents of the 15 Sep 1843 birth you mention.
It would be interesting to know where parents names names came from, per the web-page contact.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Spanish_Eyes
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Hi Ambly
I have the date of birth also from the Hudson's Bay Company where he started work in 1862 as September 26, 1844.
He married Margaret Folster and he died in Saskatchewan and they are both buried there.
I can only guess that his birth date must be incorrect and he was born September 15, 1843 and he is the son of John Sabiston and Margaret Creelman.
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AMBLY
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Hi again
If you are able to confirm these were his parents, this may be useful:
IGI births to John SABISTON & Margaret CRE(E)LMAN
Helen - Aug 1839
William - Jul 1841
John - Sep 1843
Margaret Ann - Aug 1848
This looks like Margaret in 1841 with her first child Hellen, and possibly a sister. Relationships not stated in UK 1841 Census, and ages rounded down.
1841: Stromness Orkney
Parish: 30, ED 11, Pg2
ADDRESS: Stromness
In the household are:
Ann LOUTITT 60 - Y
Janet LOUTITT 40,. Straw Plaiter - Y
Robert LOUTITT 25 - Mer S - Y (I am guessing Merchant Seaman???)
Mary CRULMAN 25, Straw Bonnet Maker - Y
Margaret CRULMAN 25, Straw Plaiting - Y
Helen SABISTON - Y No age - probably a baby under 12mths old.
(All born Orkney)
It was common to see married women in Scotland census using their maiden name - as a surname or as a middle name, and also for a widow to revert to her maiden name.
Cheers
AMBLY
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Spanish_Eyes
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Hi AMBLY
That posting in Cursiter is mine I was hoping someone might have some answers for me in the guestlog. I have the kids of John and Margaret Creelman and the more I look at it, it would seem that it is the right John who didn't remember his actual birth date when he was in Canada or lied to get employment with the Hundson's Bay Company. You mentioned 2 other John Sabiston's born in Stromness around the same time, are their dates close to what I have for our John? Any info on the parents and siblings?
Cheers, Spanish Eyes
PS: I have Margaret Ann as dieing on December 29, 1858 meaning she died at almost 10 years of age.
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airdlass
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Hi Spanish Eyes
Have you tried this site?
http://tilley.dynodns.net:8000/
Apart from census for Westray it also has OPR records for Orkney. You can find info either by child's name or parents names.
Excellent site.
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Spanish_Eyes
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I noticed I have John born August 13, 1814 and Margaret Creelman born Bef. October 24, 1813 in Stromness which I found on an Orkney site.
I often wonder how close these census people actually get the information correctly.
Spanish Eyes
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