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AMBLY
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Hi Al
Yep, that was the idea: not so much that Ann was his Aunt - but that Esther was his Granny. Ie: that Esther was mother, Ann & Temperance were her daughters, Henry was son of either Temperance or Ann, & William could be a Grandson and Mary Drake could be another grandchild .
The problem is, this 1841 Census has that William enumerated as born Devon. So while it is something to keep in mind as you get back further and eventually confirm William's parents and his 2 sets of grandparents you won't know if that's a real possibility, and even then, you'd have to know who everyone married and bred from this large family before you could safely conclude that William 41 is your William...Like I also said, he could be with relatives on his maternal side and incorrectly be down as their surname. ...daunting, but think of the fun you'll have chasing them all!
Cheers
AMBLY
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This is the only one I can find for 1891:
1891:Lyme Regis, Dorset
REF: RG12; Piece: 1666; Folio 58; Page 31
ADDRESS: Lynch
Surname: GOLLOP
William 45, Stone Merchants Labourer, b Charmouth
Wife: Mary Ann 34, b Charmouth
Son: Samuel G, 15, Stone Merchants Labourer, b Charmouth
Dau: Elizabeth 10, b Lyme
Son: James 8, Scholar, b Lyme
Dau: Rose 5, Scholar, b Lyme
Son: John 2, Scholar, b Lyme
If this is him, and I think it is - William's age is way out here - should be 55 by all accounts, may be an enumerators error.
Samuel G GOLLOP is probably Mary Ann's son Samuel George HODDER b 1877 by her first marriage, though age is out too.
And 1901 - looks like Mary Ann remarried - there is no head of house listed:
1901: Lyme Regis Dorset
REF: RG13/ Piece: 2015- Folio 35;-Pg20
ADDRESS: Pickle Square
Wife: Mary A ROBERTS 47, Charwoman, b Charmouth
Son: Henry F HODDER 19, Navvy on Railway, b Lyme Regis
Son: John GOLLOP 13, Errand Boy Port Shoe Shop, b Lyme Regis
Son: Thomas GOLLOP 8, Scholar b Lyme Regis
Dau: Bessie E T GOLLOP 5, Scholar, b Lyme Regis
Dau: Jessie ROBERTS 2 months, b Lyme Regis
Also need to clarify Mimosa post re the 1861:
1861: Charmouth Street
Head: John HUNTER 66, Widower, Dealer in Fossils , b Charmouth
Lodger: William GOLLOP 23, cordwinder (not wainer!) b Charmouth
Wife: Frances GOLLOP 24,
Living at Charmouth Street
RG9 1370 folio 13 pg 19
John HUNTER is very likely Frances' father.
Fossil Dealer ? I'm sure it says that - with the old fashioned double 's' thing!
All those echildren to sort out - and find - seems like they are all over the place in Census!
Per FREEBMD: Likely (not proven!):
William GOLLOP married Frances HUNTER 1860
Mary Ann GORGE married George HODDER 1876
Frances GOLLOP died 1878
George HODDER died 1885
Willam GOLLOP married Mary Ann HODDER 1885
William GOLLOP died 1893
Mary Ann GOLLOP married John Thomas ROBERTS 1899
Cheers
AMBLY
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The Census children.....the ones not on one census to another.....
Some would need a bit of digging and certs to identify - they could be out working away from home & family if over age 13, the girls could be married after age 16 etc etc however:
I think WIlliam GOLLOP b 1868 to William & Frances on 1871, could have married an Annie - and he is in Lyme Dorset 1891 with wife & chd including a dau named Frances. I can't find him however in 1881 or 1901.
I think Francis the son b 1862 to William & Frances on 1871 & 1881, may have married an Elizabeth GORGE (FREEBMD) but I can't find him on 1891 or 1901
But the BEST is:
The son Alfred GOLLOP b 1878 to William & Frances, who is with widower William in 1881 (and Frances may have died giving birth to him). In 1891 age abt 13 he is not with William & step-mother Mary Ann- the only possible find for him is here:
1891: Chard SOmerset
RG12/ Piece1893- Folio 44- pg19
ADDRESS: Fore STreet
Head: Henry ELSTON 47, Master Blacksmith, b Heathsbeck Devon
Wife: Mary A ESLTON 50, b Charmouth, Dorset
Dau: FLorence A ELSTON 17, unm, Dressmaker Apprentice, b Chard, Somerset
Dau: Sarah A ELSTON 13, Scholar, b Chard, Somerset
Dau: Beatrice A ELSTON 11, Scholar, b Chard, Somerset
Son: Reginald A ELSTON 5, Scholar, b Chard SOmerset
Boarder: Thomas PARRETT 21, Blacksmith Apprentice, b Charmouth Dorset
Boarder: Alfred GOLLOP 15, b Charmouth Dorset
Recognise the Somerset address and the people?
It the same people and address where Sarah GOLLOP age 88 - William's probable mother - was at in 1901! Mary Ann ELSTON, I am 99.999% sure will prove to be nee Mary Ann GOLLOP, dau of Edward GOLLOP & Sarah CLARKE and sister of your William. ie: Alfred is boarding at his Aunt's house in 1891.
So full circle I have come, and smiling I am I am, since it seems we could be on the right track all the while 
But, that marriage cert of William GOLLOP to Mary Ann HODDER nee GORGE - since this you know for a fact is right - is needed to start the ball of proof rolling and confirm if your William's dad was indeed Edward the mason.
Cheers
AMBLY
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