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John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« on: Thursday 09 November 06 04:06 GMT (UK) »

Is any one able to help with finding out about a John Kettles born 1792 Dundee Angus Scotland. Married Janet Gibson .

Children James born 1798 Dundee Angus died 1869 aged 70yrs in St Andrews, Dundee Wife Ann Young Witness was Christina Kettle his daughter.

Thanks Annette Ellen
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Kettles, Kettle, Young, Archibald, Smith, Greive, Philp, Gibson, Mason, Bent, White, Cunneen, Cahill, Roche/Roach, Lenehan/ Linehan/ Linahan, Leonard, Sayles, Waren/Warren, Johnson, Berigan/Bergin/Berrigan/Birgin, Janssen.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 November 06 09:19 GMT (UK) »

Hi Annette Ellen

In case you haven't got this, one more brother showing for James on IGI, also a submitted entry:

ROBERT KETTLES  Birth: 10 DEC 1793/ Christening: 15 DEC 1793 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

Their marriage, also submitted:

JOHN KETTLES  Marriages: Spouse: JANET GIBSON    
Marriage:  14 DEC 1792   Dundee, Angus, Scotland

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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 November 06 21:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi Monica,

Thank you for your answer, and no I did not have that name.

I am trying to try find out  the different family members eg parents ,spouses and any children. I have been told by a family member that has been to  Edinburgh (A new registry house that was opening soon ) and did find a lot of the family members and the other connections, eg marriages, births, deaths, etc and when I asked for the info, as I had given her something to start with to look for, I have not had any answer and that was back in May this year.

So I am very greatful for your answer and I am glad that their are people out there that will help you.

When I re-read my note I realised that I had put in John was born 1792 instead of his marriage year, so thank you very much for the information as I did not have any of the that information.
Once again thankyou very much.

Regards Annette.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 November 06 11:44 GMT (UK) »

FreeCen has them in the 1841 census, do a search under the name Kettels in Angus.
Theres a few other children listed.

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Julz
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 November 06 09:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi Julz,

Thanks for your response. I have tried getting into the 1841 census, and it will not allow me to go into it
I have tried different ways and it still will not let me get into it. Maybe there is a way, different to what I have been doing, so I will try them again.

Regards Annette Ellen
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Kettles, Kettle, Young, Archibald, Smith, Greive, Philp, Gibson, Mason, Bent, White, Cunneen, Cahill, Roche/Roach, Lenehan/ Linehan/ Linahan, Leonard, Sayles, Waren/Warren, Johnson, Berigan/Bergin/Berrigan/Birgin, Janssen.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 November 06 10:00 GMT (UK) »

HI Annette ellen

Like you, I cannot easily see any John or Janet Kettle(and variants) that would fit their age (b. 1760-75) in the 1841 Census in Angus or elsewhere. Maybe Julz can provide refs. from FreeCen.

Monica
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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 November 06 14:30 GMT (UK) »

Hi Annette Ellen and Monica

Ive had another look and cant find John again, but will keep searching. But have found James and Robert. Possibly.

Robert, born outside census county, aged 35 with a wife Margaret. Living in Step Row Dundee. 3 Children William, George and James.
ref Piece 282, enum dis 29 folio 29 pg 19

James, the son, wife Anne and daughter Christina, no John though, sorry must have got mixed up.

James aged 40 Gardener
Ann 40
David 11
Alexr 4
Elizabeth 14 Steam Looms
Mary 12 Steam Looms
Ann 9
Christina 5
All born Angus.

Living at Mid Chapleshead, Dundee
Piece 282 Enum Dist 70 fol 0 pg 2

Looks like Johns son, sorry for the mix up but will maybe help somewhat.

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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 November 06 14:53 GMT (UK) »

Just had a look for the Howff File of Dundee Burials in the Howff Cemeteries provided by Dundee City Archives.

You can contact them I would imagine for more info:

1245 Kettel [Gibson ] John  Gardener
 see Janet Gibson (no date for this which is unusual)

1244 Kettel Stewart 26Jun 1836 10 mth Dundee
 Water in Head dau ofJames Kettel, Gardener

1461 Gibson (Kettel) Janet 28 Jan 1843 81 Dundee
 Old Age Widow of John Kettel, Gardener

Janet must be on the 1841 census somewhere.

You can find the Dundee Archives at http://www.fdca.org.uk/index.htm
The Howff file is under Databases.

Happy hunting

Julz
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 November 06 15:17 GMT (UK) »

Julz

Well done! That does look like John and Janet. Still can't find Janet in the 1841 Census though, trying all sorts of names/variants.........she's there, but how has her names been transcribed Huh

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 November 06 15:22 GMT (UK) »

Heres another one for John Kettel

1242 Kettel John 22 Apr 1834 80yr Perth Gardener Old Age
Stannergate

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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 November 06 15:29 GMT (UK) »

Perth after John's years, does that mean he died in Perth? Sorry for the stupid question but I've concentrated looking for Janet in Dundee.
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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 November 06 16:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi Monica

No its his birthplace and the end location, Stannergate is his last know address.

Maybe Janet is down as widow Gibson?

Just done a blanket search on FreeCen for any female aged 70 - 90 under piece 282, theres a widow Gibson but aged 70. Tried all the Mrs s too!

A bit stuck now, but I think much for Annette Ellen to go on.

Also, Dundee City Council Burials Dept may be able to give further info now there are some dates, but Im not sure if they have the records of the Howff, but they do other cemeteries in Dundee and they may be able to help. I think their email is burials@dundeecity.gov.uk
There is still some headstones in the Howff (Old part), the New section was demolished to make way for a multi story car park.

Julz
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 23:24 GMT (UK) »

Hi Monica and Julz,

Thanks to both of you for all the help with the information on the family. It has been a great help for me.
Will keep looking in the sites that you suggested and hopefully will find something.
Thanks very much for the help.
Regards Annette.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 00:33 GMT (UK) »

I have been told by a family member that has been to  Edinburgh (A new registry house that was opening soon )

This sounds as if someone is a little confused (you can't use a facility which isn't open yet Smiley )

What is happening is that the National Archives of Scotland (Register House) and the General Register Office for Scotland (New Register House, next door) are combining to create a Scottish Genealogy Centre taking in the existing facilities in both buildings.
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Re: John Kettles marries Janet Gibson
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 December 06 09:20 GMT (UK) »

Hello
I have a marriage certificate for Brisbane Australia in Sept 1844 for my ancestor David McLeod and Matilda Marshall (both born in Scotland).

The witnesses for the ceremony are Margaret and James Kettles. I wonder If they are your relations?

Cheers Greg
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