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Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« on: Saturday 11 November 06 20:04 GMT (UK) »

I have a possible sighting for one of my gggggg-grandfathers - William Bedwell - but the familysearch.org record has him born in Gheacham, Berkshire. If it is him, this would be near Buckland, Berkshire, which is now in Oxfordshire.

I've looked on all the search engines with no results at all... has anyone ever heard of this place, or have any candidates for a mis-spelling?

thanks in advance, Graeme
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 November 06 20:34 GMT (UK) »

G'day Graeme  Smiley

I notice it's a submitted record that has the place as "Gheacham" - goodness knows where they got it from or what it actually is supposed to be  Undecided Undecided Undecided

I can't find anything in Genuki, or old maps, or Google, that looks remotely like "Gheacham" in Berkshire or surrounds.  There is a "Cheacham" but it's in Norfolk.

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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 November 06 20:39 GMT (UK) »

Assuming that it was written in old law script the most likely first letter replacing the G and h is a B.

Proceding from there my guess is Barkham.
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 November 06 21:13 GMT (UK) »

My guess would be Thatcham but that is nowhere near Buckland.
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 November 06 23:44 GMT (UK) »

On second thoughts i agree with vicwinann Thatcham
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 November 06 13:28 GMT (UK) »

Many thanks for the suggestions, guess I'll have to try some lateral thinking!

Unless I can get hold of a birth record - had the same problem with another one from 'Noolurch, Kent', which turned out to be Woolwich, when I saw the census copy!

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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 November 06 13:41 GMT (UK) »




   Hi ... Graeme....

  just thought I would throw these in......

  Marcham.....or....Greenham(nearer Newbury).

                     Tazzie
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 November 06 14:39 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, I already had thought of Greenham, but couldn't see how 'ee' could be read as 'ea', apart from that it'sa a likely candidate... same goes for Marcham - misreading G for any letter without curved components like C or B seems unlikely...

To be honest, it looks like anything other than seeing an original document would be guesswork; I suppose I was hoping someone had come across the name before.

Thanks again for the suggestions.
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 November 06 15:06 GMT (UK) »




    As the entry is member submitted it could even be total guess work.

  I have written it in old english and ink and Greenham is a better match but a fair distance away.

  How about the other William Bedwell entry for 1710?
It gives the village of Mersey Hampton in Gloucestershire about 14 miles as the crow flies. Ok nothing like Gheacham but we have proved that already.

   Good luck

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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 November 06 17:50 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Tazzie - guess I missed that as it was in Gloucestershire -  one day someone will come up with an interactive map that shows the parish & registration boundary changes! (btw I've done 2 Google 1877 boundary overlays for the east end of London if anyone needs 'em.)

Overall, Greenham seems the most likely, but Mersey Hampton seems much more likely, so  that's the one I'll put in the tree until I (eventually) work my way back through the tree with documentary proof - have got as far back as an 1812 marriage OPR record on my mum's side (Armstrong), but no past my dad(!) on his side... so much easier to research Scottish records!
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 10:23 GMT (UK) »

How about Compton Beauchamp (pronounced Beacham)?  Was in Berkshire, now in Oxfordshire, about 8 miles west of Wantage.

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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #11 on: Friday 17 November 06 14:14 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the suggestion KN, I also spotted that, just before I abandoned my search... perhaps a bit too convoluted to get to Geacham from Compton Beauchamp?

Guess I was hoping someone might have some local knowledge about a nickname or extinct, so unless something like that turns up, this goes on the back burner :-)
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« Reply #12 on: Friday 17 November 06 14:27 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the suggestion KN, I also spotted that, just before I abandoned my search... perhaps a bit too convoluted to get to Geacham from Compton Beauchamp?

Guess I was hoping someone might have some local knowledge about a nickname or extinct, so unless something like that turns up, this goes on the back burner :-)

As I said in my original comment it is very easy to read a capital B written in its most flowing form as Gh.  I wouldn't rejcet the idea of it being  Beacham being written phonetically.

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Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 November 06 14:47 GMT (UK) »

DOH! Must be having a dense day -  can now quite easily see that the place might be known locally as Beachamp, pronounced and written as Beacham, and then mis-read as Gheacham.

Looks like I've now got 2 candidates again until if and when I can get some original documentsation.

Thanks as ever for everyone's help. :-)

PS can anyone poiint me in the right direction for calligraphy/ old English/old writing sites? I have a couple of documents I'm still trying to decipher.
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Re: Anyone heard of Gheacham, Berkshire (now possibly in Oxfordshire)
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 November 06 17:36 GMT (UK) »

Believe it or not Beauchamp is commonly pronounced Beecham - not just for Compton Beauchamp but for the surname as well. Of course the Beauchamp in Compton B probably comes from a family that owned the manor at some time.

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