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Immigrants from Eastern Europe - changing names
« on: Sunday 12 November 06 13:29 GMT (UK) »

Most immigrants had their names changed upon arrival in England, so I thought, how about starting a list of original surnames and the area and country of birth.

Mine is  the family WINOGRON ( Grapes ) from Plock in Poland arriving circa 1890 in London.

Name changed to Weinthrop, Wintrop, Weintraub, Weintrop.
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Re: Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 February 07 11:14 GMT (UK) »

I'm with you on this one.

Mine is the family of Klein, also from Plotzk (now Plock), and also arriving in about 1890.  Eventually changed to Keene.

Also I have Blumenthal, but unable to establish so far where from.  Could be Posen (Poznan) (some census say Tosen, Germany, another says Karpan, Russia).  Name changed to Dale.
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Parker:  Bisley (Glos), Bath, Birmingham & London
Webb:  Towcester & London 
King:  London
Herbert:  Bisley, Glos
Newman:  Minchinhampton, Glos
Young:  Goxhill, Lincs
Olds:  Bitton, Glos
Hopes:  Bitton, Glos
Blumenthal:  Liverpool, Bournemouth & Southampton 
Klein:  Liverpool, Swindon & Reading 
Dale:  Southampton & Bournemouth 
Suffolk:  Lutterworth & Liverpool
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Re: Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 March 07 14:12 GMT (UK) »

I'm not sure if my ancestors changed their surname, though family keep telling me they are not sure if it is the right surname.

The surname I am researching is Loffman.  My ancestors came from Russia or Poland. 

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Re: Immigrants from Eastern Europe - changing names
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 March 07 16:42 GMT (UK) »

I've changed the title to make it more general.

here are a couple of items from
Topic: Sharing Useful Tips: GERMANY and E. Europe
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,11860.30.html


Just helped somebody out with this and thought it would be useful to others:

What were they called:

Many people emigrating to a new country have changed their names
- to avoid political repurcussions,
- to "disappear" from view, as far as the "Old Country" was concerned
- "new country, new start in life", trying to fit in
- the old name was hard to understand, so the name was anglicised, either voluntarily, or, in some cases, arbitrarily by immigration officials

Whatever the reasons, it makes life difficult for us, unless we know both the  "before & after" names.

Here a some of the simpler name changes:

1) straight translation. the name looks similar and has the same meaning
e.g. Braun => Brown, Schmidt => Smith, Grun or Grün => Green, Müller => Miller, -feld => -field, etc

2) losing the umlaut vowels (pronounced: um-lout)
the official, alternative spellings for ä,ö, ü, ß are ae, oe, ue, ss.  But on emigrating, many just dropped the umlaut => a, o, u,
e.g. Gröbener => Groebener or => Grobener
But: ä can be pronounced 'ay' as in Hay or 'e' as in hedge, so Bäcker might become Becker (soundex) or Baker (translation) or Backer (lose the umlaut)

Any other suggestions ??

p.s.
The exception confirms the rule:
Looking through the Susser Archive: http://www.eclipse.co.uk/exeshul/susser/dentists.htm I found this sentence, which I just have to share with you:

".. Abraham ben Isaiah, otherwise known as Moses Abraham Groomsfelt, or Jones,
a silversmith .."

I found the idea of changing his name to JONES amusing.
I could understand GROOMFIELD or something similar, but JONES !! 
--- the mind boggles. There has to be a story there !

Edited: 02.04.2005
cell has just posted a "searching for " story on http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47221.0.html
Her ancestor changed his name from Karlson to Carlson !!!!

and

Anglacized names in my tree:

Albrecht = Albright/Allbright
Kirchner = Carkner

Certainly liked the Groomsman to Jones one? Wink

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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

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Re: Immigrants from Eastern Europe - changing names
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 March 07 16:58 GMT (UK) »

Here's another useful topic:
Topic: Name Anglicization Site
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,49283.0.html

I also read an account recently, in a family history book, of two brothers Frank Charles DEGENHARDT and Walter DEGENHARDT, who, at the turn of the century, decided their names (their father was a german immigrant) were TOO german:

Walter DEGENHARDT became Walter HART, and
Frank Charles DEGENHARDT became Frank CHARLES  !!

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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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