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Treacle Delph, Golcar
« on: Monday 13 November 06 16:34 UTC (UK) »

The place name Treacle Delph in Golcar appears in censuses 1861- 1881 and I would like further information on where or what it is, as I can find no modern-day reference to it. Families living here included Ainley, Whitwam, Sykes, and Thewlis.
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 November 06 18:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi HH

I know Golcar very well but Ive never heard the name Treacle Delph.

I have a good friend who lives there and knows the local History very well if you want Iwill ring him and ask him if he knows anything but he wont be home till after 7.00

Joe
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 November 06 15:04 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, Joe,
That would be great. For reference, the family I looked up were Daniel Ainley's (b. abt.1826 Longwood). The family were all connected with the woollen industry. I'm sure someone will have some information!
HH
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 June 09 05:16 UTC (UK) »

I am interesed in Ainley, Wood, Bowen, and others in Golcar and Bilston.  I know this is an old chat but maybe someone will read this.
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 June 09 05:38 UTC (UK) »

There is a Daniel Ainley in the tree by marriage, I recall. I will look into it and get back to you. We have lots of relatives in Golcar- Whitwam being the main surname. Do you know anything about the name Treacle Delph?
HH
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 June 09 05:56 UTC (UK) »

I have Whitwam in my family.  Daniel Ainley b. 1826 Longwood is probably not a direct relative.  I suggest you look at the Loughran Family at tribalpages.com Very thorough genealogy for the families we both seem interested in.  Also, a Steve Whitwam helped me a great deal a few years ago in my genealogy of Ainley and Drake.
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 June 09 17:26 UTC (UK) »

Steve also helped me- his site is brilliant! He is distantly related. Daniel Ainley is very distant, as I said, and only through marriage. Our family names in Yorkshire are Shaw, Senior, Crowther, Walker, Randerson; in the 19th/ 20th century, mainly around Huddersfield. I will try and follow the lead you suggest when I have time- thank you!
HH
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Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 June 09 22:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I don't know of treacle Delph, but if you view the nearby addresses on the 1871 census they include 'Dunkirk' and 'Grand Stand'.  These two place names still exist and can be found on Google Maps, Treacle Delph must have been nearby.

Hope this helps, if only a little.
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 June 09 23:52 UTC (UK) »

According to the National Archives site, Treacle Delph was in Scapegoat Hill.

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Huddersfield_Registration_District%2C_1851_Census_Street_Index_T-Z
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:58 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for that- many of the addresses I have are Scapegoat Hill. I was particularly interested in where the name itself came from; rather like wondering who the original "scapegoat" was!
HH
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Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 September 09 01:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

all my Ainley's came from scape goat  hill, i have a daniely Ainley in my tree

regards

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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 September 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »

Hello!
The Daniel Ainley in my tree married Mary Crowther and died in 1896. I have tracked his parents and 6 siblings. He and Mary had 7 children. Let me know if you want further details- I know more about the Crowther side but may have something useful,
Regards,
HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon
Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs.
Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey
Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks.
Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk
Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo
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Sippitt, Clark- Essex
Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland
Mather- Northumberland
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 September 09 22:17 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for that- many of the addresses I have are Scapegoat Hill. I was particularly interested in where the name itself came from; rather like wondering who the original "scapegoat" was!
HH

Does this help?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treacle_mining
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 September 09 22:28 UTC (UK) »

Interesting, but nothing to do with Treacle Delph! I think its origins will remain one of life's mysteries, as will  who the original scapegoat was.
Thank you for your interest,
HH
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Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs.
Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey
Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks.
Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk
Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo
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Re: Treacle Delph, Golcar
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 September 09 22:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi, why do you say "nothing to do with Treacle Delph"?  A delph is a quarry, therefore maybe "Treacle Delph" was a treacle mine.
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