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Topic: Treacle Delph, Golcar (Read 707 times)
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HH
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The place name Treacle Delph in Golcar appears in censuses 1861- 1881 and I would like further information on where or what it is, as I can find no modern-day reference to it. Families living here included Ainley, Whitwam, Sykes, and Thewlis. HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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HH
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Thanks, Joe, That would be great. For reference, the family I looked up were Daniel Ainley's (b. abt.1826 Longwood). The family were all connected with the woollen industry. I'm sure someone will have some information! HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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snwood
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I am interesed in Ainley, Wood, Bowen, and others in Golcar and Bilston. I know this is an old chat but maybe someone will read this.
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Sproat, Cowan, Lamb, Sather, Bell, Clemow, Wood, Bowen, Ainley, Lamb
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HH
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There is a Daniel Ainley in the tree by marriage, I recall. I will look into it and get back to you. We have lots of relatives in Golcar- Whitwam being the main surname. Do you know anything about the name Treacle Delph? HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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snwood
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I have Whitwam in my family. Daniel Ainley b. 1826 Longwood is probably not a direct relative. I suggest you look at the Loughran Family at tribalpages.com Very thorough genealogy for the families we both seem interested in. Also, a Steve Whitwam helped me a great deal a few years ago in my genealogy of Ainley and Drake.
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Sproat, Cowan, Lamb, Sather, Bell, Clemow, Wood, Bowen, Ainley, Lamb
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HH
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Steve also helped me- his site is brilliant! He is distantly related. Daniel Ainley is very distant, as I said, and only through marriage. Our family names in Yorkshire are Shaw, Senior, Crowther, Walker, Randerson; in the 19th/ 20th century, mainly around Huddersfield. I will try and follow the lead you suggest when I have time- thank you! HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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libby9
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Hi,
I don't know of treacle Delph, but if you view the nearby addresses on the 1871 census they include 'Dunkirk' and 'Grand Stand'. These two place names still exist and can be found on Google Maps, Treacle Delph must have been nearby.
Hope this helps, if only a little.
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Hargreaves (Halifax, Leeds, Huddersfield) Armitage, Cock, Sharp(e), Womersley, Turner, Graham (Huddersfield) Priestly (York, Leeds) Cragg, Sutcliffe (Halifax)
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libby9
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According to the National Archives site, Treacle Delph was in Scapegoat Hill.
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Huddersfield_Registration_District%2C_1851_Census_Street_Index_T-Z
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Hargreaves (Halifax, Leeds, Huddersfield) Armitage, Cock, Sharp(e), Womersley, Turner, Graham (Huddersfield) Priestly (York, Leeds) Cragg, Sutcliffe (Halifax)
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HH
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Thank you for that- many of the addresses I have are Scapegoat Hill. I was particularly interested in where the name itself came from; rather like wondering who the original "scapegoat" was! HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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NoeleenM
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Hi,
all my Ainley's came from scape goat hill, i have a daniely Ainley in my tree
regards
Noeleen
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HH
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Hello! The Daniel Ainley in my tree married Mary Crowther and died in 1896. I have tracked his parents and 6 siblings. He and Mary had 7 children. Let me know if you want further details- I know more about the Crowther side but may have something useful, Regards, HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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libby9
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Thank you for that- many of the addresses I have are Scapegoat Hill. I was particularly interested in where the name itself came from; rather like wondering who the original "scapegoat" was! HH
Does this help?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treacle_mining
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HH
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Interesting, but nothing to do with Treacle Delph! I think its origins will remain one of life's mysteries, as will who the original scapegoat was. Thank you for your interest, HH
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Hine, Algar, Dyble, Kettle- Devon Kingett, Bishop, Elt, Jenkins, Wheeler- Worcs. Crabb, Carder, Levens- Surrey Senior, Shaw, Schofield, Randerson, Crowther, Whitwam, Walker, Stott, Dawson, Sykes, Blackburn, Leech- W.Yorks. Baldry, Cole, Borrett, Brabbon, Eastaugh- Suffolk Evans, Jones, Davies, Rees- Llandilo Nye, Beer- Kent Sippitt, Clark- Essex Longmuir, Wishart, Kennedy, Cumming, Ronaldson, Crocket, Hood- Scotland Mather- Northumberland
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libby9
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Hi, why do you say "nothing to do with Treacle Delph"? A delph is a quarry, therefore maybe "Treacle Delph" was a treacle mine.
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Hargreaves (Halifax, Leeds, Huddersfield) Armitage, Cock, Sharp(e), Womersley, Turner, Graham (Huddersfield) Priestly (York, Leeds) Cragg, Sutcliffe (Halifax)
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