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100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« on: Sunday 29 October 06 11:02 GMT (UK) »

Hello

I saw this article in the Sunday Times today about a programme appearing on channel 4 in the next month exploring the DNA and families of 8 people who consider them to be 100% anglo-saxon

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2426968_2,00.html

Looks like it might be quite good

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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 October 06 11:10 GMT (UK) »

Does sound like it could be an interesting programme. 

It does annoy me when people think they are English through and through.  What is English?Huh?

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Re: 100% English - New Channel 4 genealogy programme
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 October 06 11:14 GMT (UK) »

Who knows Kerry..apparently the Welsh are more English than the English Huh

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 October 06 12:14 GMT (UK) »

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What is English?

Somone that was born in England and whose ancestors have lived there for 3 generations?

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 October 06 12:20 GMT (UK) »

Sounds like a must-see programme. thanks for letting us know about it.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 October 06 16:45 GMT (UK) »

I read the piece in the paper, and it struck me that the programme could end up focussing on family skeletons.  We all know that our family trees are distinctly iffy because there's supposedly a 10% chance of any child not being the issue of its putative father (that was the finding of a recent study).  If you find, as in Thatcher's case, that the DNA points to someone from distant parts, it could really put the cat among the pigeons.
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 October 06 17:53 GMT (UK) »

Cat amongst the pigeons for certain!  It will be a skeleton search - what else is judged to make good telly these days?

It was interesting to see the hopes of Julian Clary's family that they weren't german in WDYTYA second series turn to dust as he brought them the news about their german background.  While that wouldn't come out of a DNA test, there's all sorts of things that could.

Shame the Sunday Times article reported that Norman Tebbit was 100% european, although I am sure he would cavil at such a  broad description as European!

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 October 06 18:10 GMT (UK) »

Great can not wait to see. I wonder if there are any true English as a Saxon came from Saxony in Germany

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 October 06 18:25 GMT (UK) »

well according to downside (see above) most of us!  I still think it is a bit narrow to think of oneself as pure english.  Sorry!

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 29 October 06 18:26 GMT (UK) »

Great can not wait to see. I wonder if there are any true English as a Saxon came from Saxony in Germany

Jim
Absolutely.  We all tend to forget that we (all of British Isles) have been more of an island race or races in the last 800 years than for the previous 1500 years before that!

well according to downside (see above) most of us! I still think it is a bit narrow to think of oneself as pure english. Sorry!

Kerry

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 29 October 06 20:31 GMT (UK) »

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Considering the vast majority of those tested in genetic studies have shown to be descended from pre-Saxon Britains, most certainly...
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 29 October 06 22:57 GMT (UK) »

These Pre saxons must have come from the west side of england as the Vikings murdered most on the east side of England (Britain)  Perhaps they hid in Wales?Huh
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:01 GMT (UK) »

I seem to remember that "Welsh" originally meant British - the indigenous people who were pushed westwards by waves of invaders.  And the Celts came from mainland Europe.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:07 GMT (UK) »

I have read some where that they did go to Wales and also Cornwall on getting away from the Vikings the Romans the Normans and the Saxon's Even  King Alfred Of Wessex lived in the West country

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 29 October 06 23:21 GMT (UK) »

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No.  It was the Anglo-Saxon for stranger or slave, which why the Welsh prefer Cymru.

Most modern thinking on the so called Anglo Saxon invasion is that it did not actually happen.  Instead there were a few Anglo Saxon chieftans that held high positions in British society. 

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