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Webby
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I'm trying to find out if the above Rice family are in the 1841 Census of Southampton.
Ellen Rice aged abt 26yrs (perhaps: Mariners wife?)
Julia Rice aged abt 2 yrs.
In the 1851 Census the family are in Melcombe Regis, Dorset (together with husband William). Ellen & Julia have born - Hants, Southampton.
Many thanks
Webby
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Wing, Isted,Lashmore, - Horsted Keynes
Green, Goldsmith,Mockford,Blackmar,Geer - Falmer & Brighton
Wing, Hack, Gray, Haywood Brighton
White, Vass, Tolhurst, Thatcher Sussex
Attree, Patching, Earle - Barcombe Sussex
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tigtag
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Webby
I'm a little confused as to why you think that Julia would be 2 on the 1841  as she is only 8 on the 1851?
Are you sure that William and Ellen we already married in 1841? There are no Ellen Rice's on the 1841.
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Jo
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Webby
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Hello Jo
The ages in this family vary quite considerably....especially the women! Ages range from birth/baptism dates of between 1809-1815 (for Ellen) and 1841-1846 (for Julia). William was the only one telling his correct birth/baptism age!
I haven't found a marriage at all for William/Ellen, and the closest birth I found for a Julia Rice was on the Isle of Wright in 1845 (which at the time didn't appear correct - but now could very well be!).
Now it looks as though the marriage and birth were later than I thought. William would have been in his mid 30's when he married.
But thanks very much for looking at the Census for me, very much appreciated.
Regards
Webby
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Wing, Isted,Lashmore, - Horsted Keynes
Green, Goldsmith,Mockford,Blackmar,Geer - Falmer & Brighton
Wing, Hack, Gray, Haywood Brighton
White, Vass, Tolhurst, Thatcher Sussex
Attree, Patching, Earle - Barcombe Sussex
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Any time Webby 
Seem's its not just us 21st Centuary women who tell/told porkies about age
Shame they all didn't have their decendents in mind as our research would be MUCH easier
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Jo
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Webby
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Shame they all didn't have their decendents in mind as our research would be MUCH easier
Don't I wish........they had left a rather detailed set of letters supplying all (perhaps some!) names, dates & places.........
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Webby
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Wing, Isted,Lashmore, - Horsted Keynes
Green, Goldsmith,Mockford,Blackmar,Geer - Falmer & Brighton
Wing, Hack, Gray, Haywood Brighton
White, Vass, Tolhurst, Thatcher Sussex
Attree, Patching, Earle - Barcombe Sussex
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Webby
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Hello Cheryle
Many thanks for your interest in this.........well..........terribly confused family! I am certainly very grateful for everyone's help that's for sure.
I thought that the Julia born in Chard may have been the one I'm looking for...but as usual...no luck! 
I didn't even give a thought to William being married prior to Ellen...duh!  Probably because I have only ever found the Census' with Ellen & Julia mentioned - and I assumed (shouldn't have of course!!) that the Mary & Robert on the 1841 Census were William's brother & sister.
Ok........now to start over once more!!
Again thanks everyone for your help.
Regards
Webby
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Wing, Isted,Lashmore, - Horsted Keynes
Green, Goldsmith,Mockford,Blackmar,Geer - Falmer & Brighton
Wing, Hack, Gray, Haywood Brighton
White, Vass, Tolhurst, Thatcher Sussex
Attree, Patching, Earle - Barcombe Sussex
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Webby
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Hello Cheryle
I am at a complete loss with this family that's for sure at this time.
I have applied for William's mother (Rebecca) death certificate from England, so perhaps that might give me a couple of clues - or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Webby
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Green, Goldsmith,Mockford,Blackmar,Geer - Falmer & Brighton
Wing, Hack, Gray, Haywood Brighton
White, Vass, Tolhurst, Thatcher Sussex
Attree, Patching, Earle - Barcombe Sussex
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Webby
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Hello Cheryle
You won't believe the next part of this saga.......or perhaps you may............seeing what sort of family I'm up against!.
But what I have been able to ascertain is that Julia had married by the 1861 Census (*when was this taken by the way - do you know??).
On the original Census her name appears to be Fr.......(soldier's wife). On checking the Free BDM site I did find what could be the marriage for a Julia Rice/Michael Frier, Weymouth - March 1861.
The 1881 Census (haven't looked at the 1871 yet) there is no Julia Frier/Fryer.......but there is a Julia Withers - a widow with a small child and this Julia was born in Southampton, her age at the time was 35 years and she was a dressmaker - her address was in Bath..........but checking the BDM site again, on the same marriage page as the Julia/Michael is a William Thomas Withers! 
Did Julia forget whom she married!!! when she gave her married name to the Census person........... or .............actually I can't come up with any other thoughts about this strange family - can you?
Cheers
Webby
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Wing, Isted,Lashmore, - Horsted Keynes
Green, Goldsmith,Mockford,Blackmar,Geer - Falmer & Brighton
Wing, Hack, Gray, Haywood Brighton
White, Vass, Tolhurst, Thatcher Sussex
Attree, Patching, Earle - Barcombe Sussex
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Hi Webby.....going on the born Portland connection could this be him.....
as they appeear to be in the same age group. It is strange though as in the census the Moore family are living in the house but one to the Rice family. 
back to the drawing board.......the IGI has her parents as Charles and Esther