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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 25 November 06 16:44 GMT (UK) »

The children's names don't help us very much at all in this one Monica  Sad  Notice that Peter is with an Eliza (not sure if wife or not - could be a sibling if the other children's ages are anything to go by) - could this be a  poss McCrae. There were lots in that area - I have one myself  Wink

Also, my names were odd from here as well - often local dignitaries, etc.

I haven't found a Helen Blain on the 1841 yet.

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 25 November 06 16:51 GMT (UK) »

Peter with a Grace now (not Eliza) in the 1851 Census:

Peter, 48, Land Steward, b. Minnigaff
Grace, 48, b. Penninghame
William, 25, b. Minnigaff
Jane Stevenson, 20, Agri. Lab. b. Minnigaff
Hanna Stevenson g/daugh?(down as d-i-l but must be down in error!) 2 mnths
Jessie, 17, b. Minnigaff
David, 10, b. Kirkmaiden
Grace, 4, b. Kirkmaiden
Margaret, 2, b. Kirkmaiden

Address: Longrigg(890), Kirkmaiden
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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 25 November 06 16:54 GMT (UK) »

No marriages showing for Peter to either Eliza or Grace on IGI  Sad
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 25 November 06 16:56 GMT (UK) »

He aged  Huh Huh Huh

He was down as 20 -24 in the 41. Children's names are more or less the same - Jean becomes Jessie, etc.

Spect the marriage was an irregular again, Monica  Sad

We really do need to try and get a handle on Letitia though. I think I've exhausted all possibilities of names in the death searches. Wonder if the Kirk Session's minutes would have anything in about possible pauper's burials - or had it been transferred by then?

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 25 November 06 17:08 GMT (UK) »

Not sure about the Kirk Session minutes, Gadget. I have only seen what is on the Dumgal site and they stop around the 1830s.  I have a feeling for Letitia, if she was the last of her line, even if we find a death cert for her (and like you I have drawn a blank - even looked across the border on Freebmd) it may well have no more details than we already have re the IGI birth entry or probably nothing for parents (won't be certain until checked of course!).

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 25 November 06 17:23 GMT (UK) »

Oh there will certainly be Kirk Session minutes after that date - somewhere. Most are in Edinburgh. I was lucky in Parton - the KS Clerk had got copies of most of them.

There are also the Poor Board Minutes:

Got this quote from the old-kirkcudbright site

http://www.old-kirkcudbright.net/genealogy/poor.asp

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For more information on the poorhouse, the Ewart Library in Dumfries has the complete minutes recorded by the Board from 1848 to 1930 inclusive.  Interesting though these are, unfortunately they seldom mention details of actual inmates.  The Stewartry Museum in Kirkcudbright also has some photographic material.

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 25 November 06 17:26 GMT (UK) »

Peter Lamont was certainly brother to William. He died in 1885 in Kirkmaiden. Parents William Lamont, Lead Miner and mother Janet Pollock, both deceased.
Wife Grace McClive still alive until 1887.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 25 November 06 17:31 GMT (UK) »

Going back to Letitia Blain.

I found the Minnigaff kirk Session Minutes reference at NAS:



http://www.rootschat.com/links/0xu/

Anyone going to Edinburgh  Huh

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 25 November 06 21:48 GMT (UK) »

I'm amazed by you two - you've been really hard at work, and once again I can't thank you enough! (Do you mind if I ask where you are getting all this information from)?

I read your posts on page two over a few times, trying to get my head around your findings - then I discoved you're onto page three! I'd just got as far as understanding the posts up to the 1841 census with Peter, Eliza, (I also thought these two may be siblings) and kids. The 2 year old Peter MAY be the line I am chasing. He is the son of William Lamont and Margaret Blain born/christened 1838.  Perhaps Peter (age 20-24) may be brother to William and uncle to young Peter?

I think I'd better go away and digest all this ... I'm getting all excited and confused and I need to sit alone in a quiet room to get this straight in my brain. I'll be back later .... a million thanks Monica and Gadget.
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