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High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« on: Sunday 24 August 08 23:57 UTC (UK) »

I am curently creating databases on staff and patients from around 1888 to the early 1900's.

I have a record all the patients 2858 buried in the paupers graves on site between 1891 and 1969. 

The first 500 male staff register is already is already in the database, I am now on with the early patients.

www.highroydshospital.co.uk is a site I have created to document the 120 years of history.
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 September 08 23:11 UTC (UK) »

I believe there was talk of creating a proper memorial for all those buried in paupers graves too - certainly there was a campaign for it a couple of years ago.

The NHS published a book on the history of High Royds too when it closed. 
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 September 08 11:47 UTC (UK) »

My wife and I recently visited the exhibition at High Royds social club. It was very enlightening and at the same time very disturbing and for that reason we won't return.
I have ancestors who spent time there and perhaps died there, thankfully none of our descendants will ever have to experience the horrors of the workhouses or asylums.
Thanks for all the hard work you have put in and I recommend a visit to the web site for anyone who has interests in workhouses or asylums anywhere, and even if you haven't the site is well worth viewing.

Dave
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 September 08 21:13 UTC (UK) »

I've had the chance to look at the site properly now and it makes for fascinating reading and viewing. It is indeed a unique archive

This is such a valuable and comprehensive collection of the the history and life of the building, its patients and staff.

I would like to echo the comments of the previous post. Thanks for creating this site so this part of our history is not forgotten

Highly recommended to all   
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 September 09 14:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
I was very interested in your website and posts re High Royds and specifically Buckle Lane Cemetery. My GG Aunt died in High Royds in 1931 and I was fortunate enough to be able to retrieve her patient records and burial plot number and map from WYAS via getting permissions from Leeds NHS trust. I would like to search your database to see if her Uncle, Robert Cort, also died in there in 1919, but can't find a way to do it, as it would certainly be quicker than last time! Can you help/advise please?
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 November 09 09:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi  I read your message about getting the Hospital Records for one of your relatives who was in Menston Hospital. I contacted Leeds nhs trust yesterday ref the same thing i.e. my wifes mothers half brother was in menston for about 38 years, he died in 1958. Leeds nhs told me that they hospital records are only usually kept for 8 years after death, but to contact St James Hospital as they may have retained some of the records.
Can you give me any more info on how you managed to get your records?
Thanks Graham
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 November 09 18:46 UTC (UK) »

I'm not sure you have been given the correct information by the individual at Leeds nhs.

There certainly used to be records older than 8 years in West Yorkshire Archive Service (WYAS) which is where the poster above found theirs.

I suggest contacting them
http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/

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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 November 09 22:29 UTC (UK) »

As Indigogirl said, I contacted West Yorks Archive Service. Bear in mind, my GG Aunt died in the 1930's and I still managed to get info so I don't know why you are not getting more. I was very surprised after that period of time to get a report, complete with her photo, but got a 4 page diary of her incaceration there and subsequently her death from TB. I know they don't have that for everyone, but it has closed what was a huge open chapter for me and confirmed the family's opinion and stigma that surrounded mental health issues of the time. My Dad and I 'hopped' over the wall to visit Maggie's final resting place at Buckle Lane 70 years after the event. To our knowledge, we are the only family members since her Parents died to acknowledge her.
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 November 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »





www.highroydshospital.co.uk is a site I have created to document the 120 years of history.

For me, this is quite shocking to read, but so very interesting. Thankyou for posting the link to your wonderful site.

Following WW2, my uncle was admitted to Menston on the insistence of his family doctor. My grandma was horrified by the sometimes quite brutal treatment he received and against the advice of her brothers and sisters, insisted he was discharged and released into her care.

He never returned to the lovely lad it was said he was before the war, relative's still insist his mum didn't do the right thing by taking him home. I was never convinced she was wrong, after reading this I'm sure she wasn't. My mum, his sister .. still says the name Menston, in a whisper.

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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 November 09 09:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Everybody. Further to the getting of records from Menston, I am now in touch with the WYAS who say that they may be able to help me. I have sent them all known details and am awaiting a reply. The reason I am chasing this is because the person in question was born illegitimately, was treated badly by his step father, got married in 1910, only to go into ww1 and come out with shell shock  and admitted to Menston for 38 years. Every time he had a visitor, he begged for them to take him home. He died aged 74, not much of a life. I have found he was claimed on his death and not buried at Buckle Lane, but is in Harehills with his wife.
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #10 on: Friday 27 November 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

It's so strange how they 'claimed' him after he died and gave him a family burial, whereas my relative was cared for by her Parents, until they died, then she was admitted to Menston, where she did not live for long.  Upon receipt of a copy of the death cert, that was registered by her Brother, it was telling that she was allowed to rest in Buckle Lane and not the family plot??
We were always told she had 'died young'. Such was the stigma that evidently her parents were prepared to sustain, but her siblings, not.... Good luck. I hope my previous posting and the fact you are in contact with WYAS come to some fruition.
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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 12:39:25 »

Hi everyone,

I was interested to read your various postings and agree that life in the thirties and before must have been horrendous.

I am currently researching my Gt Aunt who it appears died in Stanley Royd, Wakefield in 1931 aged 33.  She was admitted at the age of 25. in 1923.  I would like to ask those of you who have managed to get records for their relatives how they went about it.  Did you have to provide copies of birth and death certificates.  I have been on to WYAS and you wouldn't believe what they're asking me to provide - Ive worked out it will cost me £49 in death certificates.

All opinions and comments gratefully accepted.


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Re: High Royds Menston (west Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum)
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 20:43:59 »

Hi Busybod,
I had prepared myself for all manner of certs to have to be sent, but in the end I just had to contact a lady via email called Annette Booth at Leeds Mental Health NHS Trust. I advised her of basic info in respect of my GG Aunt and her date of death etc and that I wanted a copy of the records that had been found at WYAS for family research purposes.  She sent me a letter by post confirming she gave permission for me to get copies of the information that was found in respect of my GG Aunt at WYAS. I sent the appropriate payment for the copies from WYAS (only a few quid) and the letter (kept a copy)  and within a week or so had the required information of her notes, a picture and details of the plot number she had been buried in at Buckle Lane. An unbelievable insight into her final weeks and closure on a 'hidden' chapter.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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