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kelt01
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look up request
« on: Friday 01 December 06 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Any sign of a John Moffat he was aged 30 in the 1871 census b Ayr. Just wondered if there's any sign of him in 1851...could he be the only one ahh fingers crossed...possibly Symington if that helps Undecided
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Re: look up request
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Kelt  Smiley

Following on from the Lanarkshire board and the children born to John and Catherine Walker following their marriage in 1863. Their oldest child showed as David, b. 05 JUL 1864 Beith, Ayr. Given that they seemed to follow Scottish naming pattern for their children, there is one possible family for John in 1851, fitting his age in 1871:

David Moffat, 42, Shoemaker (master Employing Five Men), b. Glasgow
Elizabeth Moffat, 45, b. Beith
Elizabeth Moffat, 11, b. Beith
Janet Moffat, 3, b. Beith
Jeanie Moffat, 5, b. Beith
John Moffat, 10, b. Beith
Duncan McCallum, 21, b. Beith, Sheomaker
William Stewart, 26, b. Beith, shoemaker

Address: Main Street, Beith, Ayrshire

Again, as with Catherine, his parents' details with need to be verified from his MC or DC.

Regards.

Monica
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Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: look up request
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica
what would I do without you, this could fit in well with what my friends mother said today. She said there was a shoemaker in the family somewhere down the line.
Mmm if you can help with any other branches let me know as I don't want to take advantage.
kindest regards
Norma
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:38 GMT (UK) »
John is still at home, a bootmaker in 1861.  Mother Elizabeth seems to be have died and father David remarried. I'll go now and get details and post.

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Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: look up request
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:42 GMT (UK) »
1861 entry:

Agnes Moffat, 42, wife, b. Beith
David Moffat, 52, Shoemaker Emp 1 Man & 2 Boys, b. Glasgow
Elizabeth Moffat, 22, b. Beith
Janet Moffat, 13, b. Beith
John Moffat, 20, bootmaker, b. Beith
Agnes Paterson, 4 Months, granddaughter, b. Beith
Alexe Allen, 14, Stepson, Shoemaker appr., b. Beith

Address: Eglinton St, Beith, Ayr

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: look up request
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Sadly, no children entries show up on IGI for David and wife Elizabeth, but this looks like their marriage entry possibly, with Banns being read in two places (probably where each lived prior to the marriage), actual extracts from the OPRs:

DAVID MOFFAT  Marriage: 28 JAN 1833 Beith, Ayr, Scotland/ 29 JAN 1833 Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland. Spouse: ELIZABETH KNOX

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: look up request
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:49 GMT (UK) »
And the marriage to Agnes:

DAVID MOFFAT  Marriages: Spouse: AGNES ALLAN    
Marriage: 20 SEP 1859  Beith, Ayr, Scotland

With this marriage date, hopefully Elizabeth died post 1855 to help you in tracing back her line.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: look up request
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Last one before I log off  Cheesy

1841 Census:

David, 30-34, Shoemaker
Elizabeth, 30-34
Elizabeth, 2
John, 10 months

Address: 49 Main Street, Beith, Ayrshire

Regards.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: look up request
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 December 06 00:55 GMT (UK) »
Bless you Monica
sweet dreams
Norma Smiley
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Re: look up request
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 December 06 04:44 GMT (UK) »
Census 1881
Place: 144 Wt Graham Street, Barony, Lanark Scotland
John Moffat, head, 40 Beith Scotland Shoemaker
Catherine Moffat W 40 Symington Scotland
David Moffat, son, 16 Beith Scotland, apprentice cabinet maker
Hector W Moffat, son,12 Lanark Glasgow, scholar
James McKechinie, lodger 20 Paisley, Renfres, clerk ironworks
John Weir, lodger, 20, Coll, Argyll, apprentice joiner

Buried at Symington Cemetery
tombstone reads
Erected by John Moffat
Shoemaker Symington
In loving memory of his wife
Catherine Walker
Born 8th Jan 1841 died 21st Oct 1917
Also of their children
John and Janet
Who both died in infancy
The above
John Moffat shoemaker
Died 3rd Sept 1919 aged 79 years

hope this helps
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Re: look up request
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 December 06 08:00 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant, many thanks for that extra info..all helps complete the picture.
best wishes

Norma
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